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Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?
Date	2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
Message-ID	<D23D797C.5FB97%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 10/9/15, 11:29 AM, in article
barmar-24F20E.14292309102015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu, "Barry Margolin"
<barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

...
>>>> Right. Or at least for most. I still sometimes teach seniors who have
>>>> little
>>>> or no computing experience.
>>> 
>>> So do I and all of them so far have been figure out how to basically
>>> use a mouse* by themselves, although as I said, they may take a while
>>> (or even never) to get proficient at using it. Even little kids can use
>>> one with no instruction. That's because it *IS* intuitive.
>> 
>> 
>> No, kids don't have a problem because it is intuitive but because they
>> don't have years of using various devices with various, contradictory
>> methods of usage. It is their inexperience that makes the first device
>> they use unquestioningly easy.
>> 
>> 
>> Older persons aren't lazy dullards, although there is a barrier to
>> forming new habits after reaching great age.
> 
> It sounds like you're suggesting that older people have alternate
> experience that they need to "unlearn" in order to be able to use a
> mouse. What devices would those be that they're used to, and make it
> hard to learn to use a mouse.

They just have not worked with computers much and the whole experience can
be overwhelming. Many examples of them using it fine, but also many where
they do not even see windows as younger people do. It is one of the risks I
see with Windows 10 and in some areas OS X - the front window is not
differentiated enough.

> When I watch my 70-something mother use a mouse, he biggest problem she
> seems to have is when she wants to move further than there's room on her
> mousepad. She knows she has to go back in the other direction, but she's
> not good at picking it up while doing this, so the pointer ends up
> backing up as well, defeating the purpose.

Yes, I have seen this a lot. It takes practice. Those of us who use
computers a lot forget how much we take for granted.

> She also has a hard time knowing when to single- or double-click. I
> ended up teaching her to first try single-clicking, and if that doesn't
> do anything try double-clicking, and that was good enough.

I have used the same advice.

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