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Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?

From Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?
Date 2015-10-08 18:16 +1300
Organization Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID <081020151816395444%YourName@YourISP.com> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <D23AFAB9.5F6BA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <081020151328490976%YourName@YourISP.com> <D23B0AD7.5F704%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <081020151412288126%YourName@YourISP.com> <D23B15BE.5F71F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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In article <D23B15BE.5F71F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 10/7/15, 6:12 PM, in article 081020151412288126%YourName@YourISP.com,
> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That doesn't sound ridiculous to me.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Actually sounds pretty cool... though I would want it reversed from the
> >>>> description. Less likely to accidently repeat that way.
> >>> 
> >>> "Force Touch" is a ridiculous invention ... not only is it
> >>> counter-intuitive (why would you push something harder and expect a
> >>> different result??) it now encourages kids and numbnuts to break things
> >>> by going around pushing things harder to try and get them to do
> >>> something different.   :-\
> >> 
> >> How much experience do you have with the new "3D Touch" devices?
> > 
> > How is pushing something harder not counter-intuitive?? Do you push the
> > light switch harder to make the lights go brighter or even change
> > colour?? Does chewing a piece of cheese harder suddenly turn it into a
> > doughnut??
> 
> Do you open a file to get to a window?
> Do you move a mouse and to point to a file?
> Do you touch a sheet of paper once to select it and twice to open it?
> Do you press space to get a quick look at something?
> 
> If you take these things too literally they make NO sense at all. You have
> to accept that the main goal is to use the technology to make an experience
> as "clean" and easy to use as you can.
> 
> Pressing a bit harder is sort of like Quick Look or a contextual menu...
> whichever makes more sense. Pressing harder again is like double clicking.
> It makes a lot of sense to me though I admit I have no personal experience
> with it. 

But it's not intuitive. No novice user is ever going to try pressing
the screen or trackpad harder. Just like the ridiculous mutli-finger
gestures, you have to be taught about them and remember them, which
completely defeats the entire purpose of Apple's original user
guidelines (which of course these days they've completely changed
anyway).

The added stupidity of "Force Touch" is that it functions differently
in different places / applications ... and sometimes not at all (which
could lead to many broken sensors).

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Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 12:43 -0500
  Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 17:53 +0000
    Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 13:28 -0500
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:34 -0700
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 13:37 -0500
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:52 -0700
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-10-07 15:12 -0600
            Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:36 -0700
              Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-08 20:44 -0500
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 19:07 -0700
    Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-07 14:35 -0400
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 13:39 -0500
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:52 -0700
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 18:59 +0000
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 12:18 -0700
            Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 19:40 +0000
              Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 12:54 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 20:01 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-07 16:18 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 20:28 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:23 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-07 19:52 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:15 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 18:23 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 17:17 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 10:28 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 17:34 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 11:25 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 17:45 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:04 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:12 -0700
              Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 15:01 -0500
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 20:04 +0000
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-07 20:31 -0400
            Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:35 +0000
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-10-08 10:14 +1300
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:09 -0700
  Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:16 -0700
    Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 13:40 -0500
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 18:49 +0000
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 14:22 -0500
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 19:48 +0000
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-08 09:19 +1300
            Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 20:29 +0000
              Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:37 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-08 13:28 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:33 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 17:35 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:00 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-08 04:23 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 17:45 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-08 14:12 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 18:32 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-08 18:16 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 01:40 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 06:03 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 08:53 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-09 09:06 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 17:18 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 20:25 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 17:42 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-09 16:23 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 20:42 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-09 12:27 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-10-09 14:29 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 14:02 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-10-09 18:32 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:12 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 10:17 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-09 13:49 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 20:52 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 18:02 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-09 16:26 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 21:02 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 01:51 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-10-09 14:18 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-10 10:43 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 17:47 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 00:00 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 15:45 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 18:50 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 16:41 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 02:05 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2015-10-10 07:35 +0200
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-10 18:52 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 23:13 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 16:58 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 10:06 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-10 19:38 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 17:56 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:16 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-10-10 10:29 +1300
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 15:46 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-10-10 17:04 +1100
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 09:23 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 09:06 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:00 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 21:01 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 23:00 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 21:02 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 00:13 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 08:56 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 12:19 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 11:06 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 14:11 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 11:22 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-08 18:23 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 14:31 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 15:07 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-08 22:18 +0000
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 20:25 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:09 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:06 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 11:21 -0700
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 15:06 -0400
                Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-08 17:10 -0700
            Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 15:31 -0500
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 11:53 -0700
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? ANTant@zimage.com (Ant) - 2015-10-07 14:22 -0500
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 19:17 +0000
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 12:24 -0700
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-10-07 23:22 +0000
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-08 00:13 +0000
    Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 18:56 +0000
      Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 12:19 -0700
        Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-07 19:47 +0000
          Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 12:54 -0700
  Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2015-10-07 14:21 -0600
    Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-07 16:38 -0700

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