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Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?
Date	2015-10-08 09:06 -0700
Message-ID	<D23BE2AB.5F7CE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References	(8 earlier) <081020151328490976%YourName@YourISP.com> <D23B0AD7.5F704%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <081020151412288126%YourName@YourISP.com> <D23B15BE.5F71F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <081020151816395444%YourName@YourISP.com>

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On 10/7/15, 10:16 PM, in article 081020151816395444%YourName@YourISP.com,
"Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:

> In article <D23B15BE.5F71F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 10/7/15, 6:12 PM, in article 081020151412288126%YourName@YourISP.com,
>> "Your Name" <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> That doesn't sound ridiculous to me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually sounds pretty cool... though I would want it reversed from the
>>>>>> description. Less likely to accidently repeat that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Force Touch" is a ridiculous invention ... not only is it
>>>>> counter-intuitive (why would you push something harder and expect a
>>>>> different result??) it now encourages kids and numbnuts to break things
>>>>> by going around pushing things harder to try and get them to do
>>>>> something different.   :-\
>>>> 
>>>> How much experience do you have with the new "3D Touch" devices?
>>> 
>>> How is pushing something harder not counter-intuitive?? Do you push the
>>> light switch harder to make the lights go brighter or even change
>>> colour?? Does chewing a piece of cheese harder suddenly turn it into a
>>> doughnut??
>> 
>> Do you open a file to get to a window?
>> Do you move a mouse and to point to a file?
>> Do you touch a sheet of paper once to select it and twice to open it?
>> Do you press space to get a quick look at something?
>> 
>> If you take these things too literally they make NO sense at all. You have
>> to accept that the main goal is to use the technology to make an experience
>> as "clean" and easy to use as you can.
>> 
>> Pressing a bit harder is sort of like Quick Look or a contextual menu...
>> whichever makes more sense. Pressing harder again is like double clicking.
>> It makes a lot of sense to me though I admit I have no personal experience
>> with it. 
> 
> But it's not intuitive. No novice user is ever going to try pressing
> the screen or trackpad harder.

Bring someone brand new to computers and hand them a mouse. Not intuitive...
until you use it for a few minutes. Then most "get it". I suspect this is
much the same. And you do not have to use it if you do not want.

> Just like the ridiculous mutli-finger
> gestures, you have to be taught about them and remember them, which
> completely defeats the entire purpose of Apple's original user
> guidelines (which of course these days they've completely changed
> anyway).
> 
> The added stupidity of "Force Touch" is that it functions differently
> in different places / applications ... and sometimes not at all (which
> could lead to many broken sensors).



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