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Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Holding down a key does not show repeating inputted characters?
Date	2015-10-07 16:09 -0700
Message-ID	<D23AF433.5F6A9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 10/7/15, 2:14 PM, in article
1mbyx43.1kn2div11zdlmhN%dempson@actrix.gen.nz, "David Empson"
<dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 10/7/15, 11:35 AM, in article
>> 561565ba$0$49161$c3e8da3$92d0a893@news.astraweb.com, "JF Mezei"
>> <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2015-10-07 13:53, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> 
>>>> <http://osxdaily.com/2011/08/04/enable-key-repeat-mac-os-x-lion/>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks. Had not noticed this. I have my own keyboard design, and holding
>>> down the "e" didn't even pop up a menu with all accented versions of the e.
>>> 
>>> Interesting that the System Preferences for Yosemite still has key
>>> repeat settings even if Apple would have disabled key repeat by default.
>> 
>> I figured key repeat still worked for SOME keys, just not ones with
>> "variants". In testing this is not the case!
> 
> The repeat delay and rate do still work for some keys: anything which is
> not a letter or number, including arrow keys, space, return, tab,
> brackets, etc. They also affect the special function keys such as
> brightness and volume control.

Thanks. Had not thought of those, but, yup just tested and they do as you
say. 

>> "Delay Until Repeat" effects the delay until you see the variants.
>> 
>> Maybe it is different in different programs? I only tested in TextEdit.
> 
> It depends on whether the application is using Cocoa frameworks to get
> keyboard input. TextEdit (along with most other modern applications) do
> support this, older Carbon applications like MacSOUP don't. Terminal
> either isn't using the Carbon framework or is deliberately avoiding the
> feature because alphanumeric key repeat is more important in a command
> line context.
> 
> Some applications are a weird halfway house. FileMaker Pro 11 on
> Yosemite doesn't show the character selector popup, but it autorepeats
> keys that would show that popup in other applications. For example 'e'
> autorepeats, but 'd' doesn't. (The popup does appear in a context such
> as the filename entry field in Save As.) FileMaker Pro 12 and later
> behave like TextEdit.

Weird how FMPro 11 works. Sounds like a bug they fixed. I still have the
very ancient FMPro 8.5 which no longer even full works on modern Mac OSs
(you cannot print or save as PDF, making it largely useless for me, but I
still have it). For my use upgrading is too expensive.


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