Re: Installing on one machine, using in another..

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William Unruh wrote:

> On 2016-02-24, Stef <not@this.address.com> wrote:
>> Robert Heller wrote:
>>
>>> At Wed, 24 Feb 2016 01:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Stef <not@this.address.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You'll get no arguments from me.  I have nothing contrary to say about
>>>> Mint.  It's one of the easier Linux distros to install and set up, and
>>>> almost everything works out of the box.  Right now, I just prefer
>>>> Debian.  I want a system that doesn't "change."  Just security and
>>>> bug fixes is all I want.
>>>
>>> Ah, like RHEL/CentOS...
>>
>> Considered CentOS.  I'd been using Fedora for years since Core 3, but
>> wanted to get away from "experimental," constantly in flux software. 
>> And I want long term support, too.  And for longevity, I wanted
>> something that was newer. At the time, the newest release of Cent (6,
>> I think) was based off Fedora 12/13 code, the release I was currently
>> using which was already over a year past End of Life. So, Cent was
>> out.
>
> Modern and stable are to an extent contradictory requirements. Stable
> only comes about once bugs have been shaken out which takes time, and
> means you cannot go installing the latest stuff which has almost
> certainly introduced new bugs. I get the feeling that Mint is a "Modern"
> branch of Debian. (as Fedora is of Redhat).

This I know, but "newer" doesn't necessarily mean "modern" or as I like
to call it "Cutting Edge" like Arch Linux.  Even Fedora is not cutting
edge.

Mint has two code bases:  Ubuntu and Debian.  The Debian Edition
originally  used Debian Testing as its base and was a "rolling
release." And, yes, at that time Mint to Debian was more like Fedora
to Redhat, but since January 2015, IIRC, Mint Debian Edition is based
off Stable, currently Jessie. So, the analogy no longer applies.


>>
>> To make a long story short, I ultimately decide on Debian, but continued
>> to use Fedora 12 for another 6 to 8 months until Wheezy became the
>> new Stable, May 2013 IIRC.
>>
>> My current upgrade plan is to wait for Debian 9 Stretch, but depending I
>> may abandon Debian and go with something else.  I have no irrational
>> loyalties.  I pick what fits my requirements.  And, too, it's about time
>> to build a new system. This one is for the most part is 9 years old and
>> even though it's been upgrade numerous times, the newest part is still
>> 2 or 3 years old.  Or maybe instead, I should just replace this aging
>> box with a small, powerful notebook and dock.
>
> Certainly notebooks are pretty impressive. The keyboards/monitors are
> much less so, but that can be fixed by using external
> keyboards/monitors. The bigger problem is the impossibility of upgrade.
> When they get older you cannot in general rejuvinate them except by
> buying a new one. On the other hand, you cannot lug a desktop around. 
> (On that note, always buy light. Even if you think you are only
> occasionally going to lug it around, the first time you are running
> across an airport carrying a 5 pound notebook will convince you why
> buying a 17 inch monster was a bad idea-- I buy 12-13 inch machine which
> weigh 2 pounds. Makes a huge difference. )

17 incher?  I wouldn't consider anything bigger than 14".  But really
prefer the 11 to 12" range with a port to hook up an external monitor at
the very least.  Even 13 inchers are too big.  I'll leave the 17 inchers
to the young and foolish with strong backs. ;-)

Stef

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  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-22 17:09 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:25 +0000
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      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-02-22 09:56 -0800
        Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:06 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 12:00 -0600
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-22 18:29 +0000
        Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:49 +0000
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-02-22 12:01 -0800
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-22 21:38 +0000
            Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-23 10:06 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 12:00 -0600
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-22 11:36 -0600
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:43 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Trenbidia <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-23 00:25 +0000
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-22 18:09 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:17 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-23 16:50 +0000
        Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-23 18:34 +0000
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-23 15:23 -0600
            Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Trenbidia <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2016-02-23 23:52 +0000
          Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-24 01:27 +0000
            Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> - 2016-02-23 20:39 -0600
              Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-24 08:35 +0000
              Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-24 18:09 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-02-24 20:18 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-25 06:56 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "john" <z@z.z> - 2016-02-25 11:56 -0800
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-26 17:47 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 00:14 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-27 08:36 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Kara M'bola <maxupixu@in.val.it> - 2016-02-27 10:02 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-27 18:30 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-27 21:37 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-28 04:22 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 15:14 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-28 17:19 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 19:36 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-28 21:33 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-28 23:07 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another..  totally off topic now!! "john" <z@z.z> - 2016-02-29 09:36 -0800
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. totally off topic now!! "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-02-29 23:52 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. totally off topic now!! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-01 00:38 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-02-29 17:08 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-03-01 00:09 +0100
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Stef <not@this.address.com> - 2016-03-01 00:29 +0000
                Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-03-01 01:57 +0100
  Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-02-22 18:38 +0000
    Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-02-22 18:44 +0000
      Re: Installing on one machine, using in another.. Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2016-02-22 20:24 +0000

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