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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

Subject Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
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From "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
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Date 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
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On 12/10/24 4:06 PM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, rbowman wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 10:07:36 +0100, D wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh... I lost a business deal with the government yesterday, and this
>>> old trick was specifically the reason. The IT-department was very
>>> pro-windows,

   Then not worth suffering for ....

>>> and with my solution, they had to manage linux and the hardware, but not
>>> the solution on top. With the competitor, they promised them that they'd
>>> take care of everything and that they would never have to see a
>>> terminal, and there was much rejoicing among the windows people.
>>
>> We had two sites that used Linux on the servers although the workstations
>> were Windows. In both cases the administrator was a Linux fan. When they
>> left or moved up the ladder the servers were moved to Windows.
> 
> Yep... a story that is sadly waaaaay too common! And todays story... 
> some of the students a colleague of mine is currently teaching 
> networking thought the exam was too difficult, so they told the school 
> they will refuse taking it, until it is made easier. ;)

   Then FAIL them all ... no mercy.

> The key here is that each students brings the school a nice profit of 
> 8000 EUR per year, so the threat of a student dropping out very often 
> softens the heart of the school, to the great frustration of the 
> teachers. =/


   Ah ... Gen-X/A2 ... it it ain't easy/zero-IQ then it's
   not worth attempting  :-)

   Look up the US term "DEI" .....

   The SCHOOL - well - the the profit per-student likely
   dictates its sympathies .....

   Somewhere, at least for now, there WILL be some who
   actually want to learn/practice the Black Arts of
   Linux/Unix and do-it-yourself programming. HIRE THEM !

   Kinda worried about BEYOND Now .....

   As some point the "AI" will be called upon to do
   it all. Then, for people, it's all MAGIC afterwards.
   NO comprehension of what/why/how.

   I speak as an oracle here ... just watch ......

   SOON NOW - the "AI" will be giving advice/code on
   how to improve the "AI". Humans won't Get It - and
   will just sign-off on the upgrades in hope of
   more $$$. THAT ought to be interesting  :-)

   A little bit of advice ... while you can ... get
   a fairly good general-purpose PC and install one
   of the BSDs. OpenIndiana/Solaris is maybe an
   offbeat alt (it's OK) and even the odd Plan-9
   can be useful (though intended for distributed
   systems). This will give you fair access while
   kinda circumventing the "AI"s and spy apps and
   such for awhile.

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  Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-06 07:43 +0000
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:12 +0100
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 02:30 +0000
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:59 -0500
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:32 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:15 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:39 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:35 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:57 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:43 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:12 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-08 03:02 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 08:09 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-08 16:33 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-08 18:19 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 11:49 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-08 21:50 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2024-12-08 04:45 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 12:53 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 03:05 -0500
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:26 +0100
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 13:49 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 10:15 -0500
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 16:40 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2024-12-07 12:44 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:47 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:30 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 18:24 +0100
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 18:37 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-07 19:57 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-07 20:16 +0000
                Re: The Joy Of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:37 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 00:03 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 23:19 +0100
                Re: The Joy Of Democracy Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-12-07 22:36 +0000
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:41 -0500
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:29 +0100
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 22:40 -0500
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-07 04:50 +0000
  Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-06 10:06 +0100
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 23:27 -0500
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:40 +0100
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:05 -0500
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 13:39 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 01:22 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:28 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:58 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:53 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:29 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 20:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:23 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:39 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 04:41 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:50 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:52 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:06 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 04:56 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:38 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:17 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:18 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:51 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:15 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:53 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000

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