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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

Subject Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
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From "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net>
Organization wokiesux
Date 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
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On 12/12/24 11:56 PM, Rich wrote:
> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> It is so strange.  Your program fails the most nr of people, and has
>> the most nr of people leave the program.  This is bad.  However...
>> when we look at if the students get jobs after their education, your
>> program has a 100% job ratio, and all of your students get salaries
>> above the average for their age group.  This is so strange!
> 
> β€œIt is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary
> depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair
> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something

   Wow ... he understood this SO far back !

   But then there have been bureaucracies, and pointy-haired
   bosses, since antiquity ...

> This is why college success measures should be based upon how
> employable their graduates are.  Gone (or seriously reduced in size)
> would be all the degree programs that don't produce gainfully
> employable graduates.
> 
> Instead the measure is how much student loan money they can hoover out
> of each student during the student's time on campus.  And by that
> measure they are all resounding successes.

   MONEY, rather than MERIT, has always been important - but
   I think it's become SO much the over-riding factor now
   that The Future is seriously endangered.

   Read back to the early universities. MOST students were
   just fops, kids of Rich Guys. They were sent there for
   'prestige' reasons, NOT to actually LEARN anything.
   Indeed it was considered pedestrian for 'gentlemen' TO
   learn anything. We're talking 1300s/1400s here ... the
   pattern was set .......

   As for the know-nothing kiddies getting high salaries ...
   maybe think of it in 'evolutionary' terms. They will
   destroy their employers, then move on and destroy even
   more employers. In the end, moronic employers will
   be selected-against  :-)

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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-06 23:27 -0500
  Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:40 +0100
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:05 -0500
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 13:39 +0100
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 01:22 -0500
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:28 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:58 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:53 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:29 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 20:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:23 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:39 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 04:41 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:50 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:07 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:52 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:06 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:49 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 04:56 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:38 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:42 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:48 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:34 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:18 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:51 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:15 +0100
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:53 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000

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