Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

From	D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc
Subject	Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date	2024-12-13 11:34 +0100
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, Rich wrote:

> D <nospam@example.net> wrote:
>> It is so strange.  Your program fails the most nr of people, and has
>> the most nr of people leave the program.  This is bad.  However...
>> when we look at if the students get jobs after their education, your
>> program has a 100% job ratio, and all of your students get salaries
>> above the average for their age group.  This is so strange!
>
> “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary
> depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair
> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something
>
> This is why college success measures should be based upon how
> employable their graduates are.  Gone (or seriously reduced in size)
> would be all the degree programs that don't produce gainfully
> employable graduates.
>
> Instead the measure is how much student loan money they can hoover out
> of each student during the student's time on campus.  And by that
> measure they are all resounding successes.

Amen!

It is sad that the elite universities have a monopoly on networking. 
That's basically the only value you get out of those programs.

If it weren't for the networking part, any smart young man could get a 
really good education with all the free books and course material that's 
out on the internet, except (I guess) for practical disciplines that 
requires extensive labs.

But computer science should be perfectly possible to reach a very high 
level by yourself using only your laptop and the internet. But you won't 
get the networking and connections though.

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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-07 11:40 +0100
  Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:05 -0500
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 13:39 +0100
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 01:22 -0500
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:28 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:58 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:53 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:29 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 20:09 +0100
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:23 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:39 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:15 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 04:41 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:50 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:07 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:52 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 22:06 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:49 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 04:56 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:38 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:42 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:48 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:34 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:18 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:51 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:15 +0100
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:53 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000

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