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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

From D <nospam@example.net>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 13/12/2024 10:41, D wrote:
>> Have a business partner who thinks exactly the same. He announced a linux 
>> sys admin job a few weeks back, and got 100 replies.
>> 
>> 1/3 he threw away because those were indians without swedish knowledge. 1/3 
>> were people about to retire who just want to wait until they are 65, and he 
>> wants someone long term, and not someone who disappear after 1 or 2 years, 
>> and 1/3 were from vocational schools, that he by default throws away. The 
>> search continues!
>
> In my day the vocational schools produced very high quality people who took 
> practical approaches to problem solving.

Those were the days. This is sadly no longer the case. =( Of course, there 
are still good people, but I know them since I teach them and meet them 
every other day. But as an employer, without that knowledge, it is very 
difficult to find them, and the rest are what spoil this type of 
education by simply not caring.

> One guy couldn't really code, so he searched the internet and asked questions 
> and arrived at working solutions that way. Respect.
>
> Another set were bright people with any degree in STEM except computer 
> science.
>
> And a final set were wannabe computer geeks who read all the manuals and 
> explored every single drop down menu entry and ended up rebuilding windows 
> every week.
>
> Very useful at rebuilding customers wrecked windows installs...

When I had a consulting gig, building up a support department at a cloud 
provider, I had the chance to hire 6 of my old students. They performed 
very well, and by now they are all having above industry average salaries, 
with only a vocational degree. It is a nice feeling that I was able to 
give them a good start with their IT careers.

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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-08 02:05 -0500
  Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-08 13:39 +0100
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-08 19:50 +0000
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-09 01:22 -0500
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:28 +0000
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 15:58 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-09 21:53 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:29 +0000
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            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:23 +0000
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              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:39 +0000
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-09 22:15 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2024-12-10 04:41 +0000
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-10 15:50 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 10:07 +0100
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-10 19:52 +0000
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                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:38 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-12 10:49 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-13 04:56 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 02:20 -0500
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:38 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:42 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:48 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:17 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:34 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2024-12-14 05:18 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:51 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:15 +0100
    Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
      Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
        Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
          Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
            Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
              Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:53 +0100
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
                Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000

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