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| From | D <nospam@example.net> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Joy of this, Joy of that |
| Date | 2024-12-14 13:08 +0100 |
| Organization | i2pn2 (i2pn.org) |
| Message-ID | <224e73d7-703e-c93a-e8b7-f3f3fe12db6c@example.net> (permalink) |
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2024, Rich wrote: > D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >> [-- text/plain, encoding 8bit, charset: UTF-8, 37 lines --] >> >> >> >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2024, Rich wrote: >> >>> D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>>> It is so strange. Your program fails the most nr of people, and >>>> has the most nr of people leave the program. This is bad. >>>> However... when we look at if the students get jobs after their >>>> education, your program has a 100% job ratio, and all of your >>>> students get salaries above the average for their age group. This >>>> is so strange! >>> >>> “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary >>> depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair >>> https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21810-it-is-difficult-to-get-a-man-to-understand-something >>> >>> This is why college success measures should be based upon how >>> employable their graduates are. Gone (or seriously reduced in size) >>> would be all the degree programs that don't produce gainfully >>> employable graduates. >>> >>> Instead the measure is how much student loan money they can hoover >>> out of each student during the student's time on campus. And by >>> that measure they are all resounding successes. >> >> Amen! >> >> It is sad that the elite universities have a monopoly on networking. >> That's basically the only value you get out of those programs. >> >> If it weren't for the networking part, any smart young man could get >> a really good education with all the free books and course material >> that's out on the internet, except (I guess) for practical >> disciplines that requires extensive labs. >> >> But computer science should be perfectly possible to reach a very >> high level by yourself using only your laptop and the internet. But >> you won't get the networking and connections though. > > Nor get the "magic sheet of paper" that says you passed all the rote > memorization tests. > > And with so many jobs requiring the "magic sheet of paper" to even > quallify to apply, it would be hard for that 'self taught' CS person to > get their foot in the door to show that they were as good (or, from > what I've seen, likely better) as many of the H1B's the company is > otherwise hiring. > Is that really so important in the tech-sector? When I was young I'd meet many people in IT with very diverse backgrounds. But maybe it has become worse the past decade? =(
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:41 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-13 11:32 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:01 +0000
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:40 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 13:15 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 19:09 +0100
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-09 11:39 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-09 20:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-10 09:52 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-12 03:07 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-12 08:22 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 08:13 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2024-12-13 01:55 -0500
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 08:30 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 07:53 -0800
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-14 11:45 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-12-13 11:38 +0100
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-13 20:14 +0000
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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-14 11:13 +0000
Re: Joy of this, Joy of that rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-14 18:28 +0000
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