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Re: Joy of this, Joy of that

From D <nospam@example.net>
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Subject Re: Joy of this, Joy of that
Date 2024-12-10 20:09 +0100
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2024, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> On 09/12/2024 21:53, Rich wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 09/12/2024 15:28, Rich wrote:
>>>> ndeed,*very*  much so.  Which is why "enterprise" and "corporate" IT
>>>> environments are so rabid about having "support".  "Support" is their
>>>> buzzword for "someone else to blame so we can cover our assess when the
>>>> shit hits the fan".
>>> 
>>> LOL.
>>> 
>>> Most support contracts are not worth wiping your bottom on.
>>> 
>>> They are just designed to make money out of.
>>> 
>>> The sub prime mortgage crisis was typical of such.
>>> 
>>> "We have shit loads of bad debt that we cant offload"
>>> "Well package it up  with insurance against failure  and sell it as A1
>>> guaranteed debt then"
>>> "But what will happen if the insurance companies can't cover it"
>>> "Oh that will be the government's problem, not ours"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://vps.templar.co.uk/Cartoons%20and%20Politics/story.jpg
>> 
>> Nice...
>> 
>> Although I doubt that anyone actually asked the "what if" question
>> about the insurance companies in the run-up to the explosion.
>
> Oh they did. My then BiL was deep into finance and banking at the time and 
> was literally shaking his head in disbelief. The financial times had grave 
> doubts.
>
> Cambridge city council bunged 8 million into Icelandic banks which was 
> stupid. I asked whether the bursar had ever read the FT. The reply came back 
> 'no, he is too busy'
>
> My jaw has never actually returned to the correct place. A man in charge of 
> investing millions of pounds of public money is 'too busy' to read the most 
> important financial paper in the world?
>
> Apparently the job consist in random picking of half a dozen investments from 
> an apprioved list. On that list were several banks that needed rescuing 
> ultimately..
>
> How someone with no apparent experience in finance or accounting got that job 
> I cannot say.
>
> It was the same with GM bonds. GM bonds were - or should have been - junk. GM 
> was essentially bankrupt.
>
> And yet they were trading on the basis that the political fallout from 
> letting GM crash and burn was such that the government would always bail them 
> out

That is why I am in favour of having as a _requirement_ for senior public 
positions and political offices to

1. Have a degree.
2. Know english.

Ideally it would be nice to have them pass a psychological test to make 
sure they are not complete psychos, and perhaps an intelligence test or 
two as well. =)

I doubt I will see the above happen in my lifetime, although, if 
transhumanism is right, perhaps immortality is around the corner!

I also think that having an academic degree actually is a requirement in 
some countries. In germany senior politicians seem to be very fond of 
plagiarizing their way to Ph.D:s.

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