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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Floppies |
| Date | 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <es93qlxhec.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
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On 2025-09-20 16:43, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 20-09-2025, Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> a écrit : >> Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: >>> In France we say CD. For the strictness of the French it's not that >>> easy. First French people start to use the English word related to a >>> new concept. Second, the 40 morons auto declared experts in French >>> chose a word which looks like more French to replace the English word. >>> Then some people try to use the new word, other don't. Depending on the >>> word, it's more or less well spread. >> >> Like ordinateur or logiciel? > > Short answer: no. > > But I love languages and history and as we are speaking about computers > at the same time, I feel a longer answer isn't out of topic here. And as > I like your mistake, I'm enjoying to answer it in advance. Thanks for > your question. > > So, for the obvious part, ordinateur and logiciel are used by every one > in France. Nobody is using computer and software. Since as long as I can > remember, so probably before I was born, everyone in France spoke about > ordinateur and logiciel. For the logiciel part, I have no clue. So > thanks again: I'll have to dig and that promise to be very interesting > but it's for later. For now, I'll answer the ordinateur part, then I'll > give you real examples of what I mean. > > So, a really different point between the French world and the English > world is: in France we are speaking about ordinateurs and informatique > when in US/UK they are speaking about computers and computer science. In Spain too. Ordenador and informática. But also computadora. And we have informática as the science. Logiciel no, no local equivalent. I'd love to find a similar word. > It's not about using different word to speak about the same thing. It's > about different concepts. And that's when the fun begins. > > Let say for a start, that I'm speaking about my visions of things. I > mean the reason behind them here are real. But not everyone in France > and/or in US/UK are aware of them or agree with them. The history is > right, the linguistic is right but the implications in every one life is > not required to be right. > > So, that being said, let's start with the US/UK world. > > A computer is something designed to compute. Which means the actual > computer follow either the Chinese abacus if you want to go back in time > as far as you want. Or you can consider Blaise Pascal if you want to > start with the theory. But your (or my) preferred way to start looking > for the beginning of computing is irrelevant here. The main point is: in > the English world, the history start with the computing thing. > Computations started to be more and more complex and the actual computer > came to life. And the term computer science is obvious on that part. > > Now, for the French words, there are two different things but only one > same broad concept which is conceptually different from the English > world. And for my part, I strongly consider that the French concept is > the right one. Not because I'm French, mind you: it's irrelevant here, I > hope it will be obvious by the end. > > So, ordinateur is a word related with ordonner in French, which means > sorting in English. And if it can looks weird seen like that, it will > become more obvious soon. Yes, a little bit of suspense here, sorry if > you don't like it, I can't avoid it and my post is already to long. So, > the other part is informatique. Ordenador in Spanish would mean he who is sorting, yes, but also he who give orders. > > It's not related with computation in a broad way but with information > in a broad way. And then, you can understand why taking care of > information in a broad way is relating with sorting. Or at least I hope > so. It's not the same thing but it's related. Of course, when you want > to sort a lot of information you need some power to compute. But it's a > need not a purpose. > > And, still for me, but it's not a new thing, other people agree with > that, I discovered nothing, the ancestor of computer is not related with > abacus or Blaise Pascal. So, by now, do you already guessed what is the > ancestor of modern computer to me (maybe for you too and for a lot of > others) is? > > End of suspense: it's the Jacquard machine designed to loom in an > automatic way. You may claim that as a French I'm looking only at the > French point of view. You may claim that Charles Babbage came before. > But it's not my point. My point is not to say that the technical part > (Jackquard machine/abacus) is more or less important than the theory > part (Charles Babbage/Blaise Pascal). My point is to say that the > concept behind the computer is distinct to the concept behind the > ordinateur. The Charles Babbage machine was mentioned in my Engineering classes in Spain, yes. But I don't remember that word distinction. Curious. > > One starting in a need to compute and, in a second time, the need to > program more and more difficult computations. The other starting with > the need to reproduce the same thing again and again with the need to > compute arising with the difficulty to reproduce. In the end, we arrive > at the same thing, but the concepts behind them are very different. And > that's, for me, the reason before those different words. Unlike other > words which came in the French world from the English world with poor > adaptations, your two examples didn't. For me, computer/software and > ordinateur/logiciel have their own history (well, now, I'll have to find > where logiciel come from and I have no clue where to start). > > Now for the examples. > > For the accepted translations in France, you have the mouse. In France > every one is using the word souris, which is the exact translation of > mouse as an animal. So, there is nothing interesting to say about that: > it has been translated and the translation has been accepted by > everyone. End of the story. It's probably why Carlos thought in France > were are more strict than in Spain. It's far from stupid: it's just a > little part of the story. Oh, we say "ratón" as well, like the animal. But we say "software", not translated, mixed with "programa", which is translated. > > For the no need of translation, you have the clavier. Everyone in France > is using a clavier. Nobody need to speak about keyboard. The reason is > obvious: it cames from the typing machines which had a keyboard/clavier > and came along well before the personal computers. So the same word was > used in the computer world. The translation is obvious and the need of a > better world doesn't exist. Same in Spain. "Teclado" was used in typing machines, but also in musical instruments like the piano, organ, or the "clave", which wikipedia says it is "clavecín" (harpsichord). > > For real part of what I mean, you have mails and bugs. I'm speaking only > about computer world here because it's related with Linux. But a lot of > other domains are fought with more or less success in France to avoid > using English words. We say "bug" in Spain. As software translator I used "gazapo", which is "the young rabbit (a newborn rabbit) or, in more colloquial usage, an unintentional mistake or slip of the tongue when speaking or writing" (I got the quote from Goole AI, then translated it.) We also use "email", although we could use "ecorreo" or the longer "correo electrónico". > > So for the mails and bugs, they started only in the computer world. > Nobody objected with that. Then people outside of the techy world > started to use computers, so they started to use mails and bugs at the > same time. And so, the 40 morons started to find a need to fight that. > So, they came out with mels and bogues. > > The word mel doesn't exist in French, it's a very new word just designed > to sound more French and to avoid using an English word. For me, it's > plain dead stupid and I never use it. And I'm not the only one feeling > like that: some people are using it other stay with mails. So, that's a > real example of my answer to Carlos: in France, the strictness depends > on people. Ah. > The bogues are something very different. They are the green things with > spikes around chestnuts. So, they are an already existing word, sounding > like the word they mean to replace even if the meaning is different. The > bug is the thing that create issue. The bogue is the issue you have if > you try to take it with bare hand. When in the English world, the bug is > the thing that destroys little part of computers. For me, and for a lot > of people in France, the idea is stupid. For others, it's a good idea. > > So, in France, depending on sensibilities, you can find either mels or > mails and you can find either bugs or bogues. That's what I mean with > the more or less spread thing. > > It has probably taken you some time to read it. Be assured it took me > more time to write it. But I enjoyed it, I'm sorry if you didn't like my > answer. Now, I'll have to dig on the logiciel part. I guess it's related > with logic, but it's not enough of an explanation: thanks again for your > question. > :-) -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 04:04 +0000
Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-23 19:05 +1200
Dream university Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:33 +0200
Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:21 +0100
Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:06 +0000
Re: Dream university Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-23 19:30 -0400
Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:22 +0000
Re: Dream university The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:38 +0100
Re: Dream university rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:00 +0000
Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:03 +0200
Re: Relocating Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:13 +0100
Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:37 +0200
Re: Relocating rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:50 +0000
Re: Relocating "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:18 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:45 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:45 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:05 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:15 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 14:07 -0700
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 09:48 +1000
Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> - 2025-09-22 21:28 +1200
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 10:48 +0100
Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-21 23:09 -0600
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 08:03 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0100
Re: Floppies Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-09-22 10:19 -0600
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:00 +1000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:05 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0100
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:08 -0600
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:54 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:45 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-21 00:39 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 23:19 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:52 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 17:54 +1000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 10:17 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 09:44 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:27 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 10:32 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 11:53 +0200
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-21 20:26 +1000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:50 -0700
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:28 +0200
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:16 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 12:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 13:41 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:32 +0200
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:00 -0400
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 09:26 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 08:45 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-23 11:50 +0200
Re: Floppies Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2025-09-23 11:30 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:33 +0100
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:22 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:33 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:26 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-24 08:51 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:24 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:40 +0000
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 23:34 +0100
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-24 09:05 +1000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:27 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 18:19 -0700
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-23 21:40 -0400
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:33 +0100
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-24 08:26 -0700
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-24 09:37 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:15 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 03:54 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:18 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:38 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 16:19 +0200
Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 19:59 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:01 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 07:58 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:35 +0200
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:33 +0200
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:01 +0200
Re: Floppies Chris Elvidge <chris@internal.net> - 2025-09-22 12:12 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 09:01 -0700
Anarchy Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 06:30 +0200
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 08:48 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:28 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:21 +0000
Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:49 +0200
Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:02 +0100
Re: Ousting a king "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 20:19 +0200
Re: Ousting a king The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:14 +0100
Re: Ousting a king rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 17:52 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 12:48 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 18:53 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-21 19:59 +0200
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-22 00:19 -0600
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 09:28 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-23 08:44 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:12 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:40 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Janet <nobody@home.com> - 2025-09-22 11:35 +0100
Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 12:58 +0200
Re: Multiple residences rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:58 +0000
Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:43 +0200
Re: Multiple residences "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:09 +0200
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 21:55 +1000
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-22 18:09 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:18 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-22 22:02 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 02:45 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:09 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:20 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:42 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:36 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:24 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:23 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:51 -0700
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:36 +0100
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-23 21:28 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 01:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:11 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:31 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-22 10:07 +1000
Re: Floppies vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-22 00:29 +0000
Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:14 +0200
Re: Desalinated water Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0200
Re: Desalinated water "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:08 +0200
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:46 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 16:01 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 05:27 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 23:35 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 19:22 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 13:16 -0700
Re: Desalinated water rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:31 +0000
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 21:38 -0700
Re: Desalinated water Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-23 11:25 +1000
Re: Desalinated water The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 12:17 +0100
Re: Desalinated water Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 10:02 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:50 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:43 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:11 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:24 +0000
Re: Floppies Tony Cooper <tonycooper214@gmail.com> - 2025-09-21 20:07 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 02:25 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 19:35 -0700
Re: Floppies Sam Plusnet <not@home.com> - 2025-09-22 21:25 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:29 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 08:46 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 05:12 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:00 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:32 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:55 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:39 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:08 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:24 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:42 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:25 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:03 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:49 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 11:22 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:44 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 13:32 +0100
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:18 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 04:57 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:48 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:38 -0700
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-19 12:05 +0200
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-19 07:58 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:37 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:10 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:55 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:55 +0100
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 23:21 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:55 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:32 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:27 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 09:07 +1000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 00:20 -0400
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 14:57 +1000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-19 11:41 -0600
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 18:55 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:36 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-20 14:44 +1000
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:09 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:29 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:43 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 05:17 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:22 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 12:40 +0100
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 08:56 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 18:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 14:22 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:50 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:51 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:01 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:32 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:55 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:34 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:29 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:15 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:16 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:54 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:10 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:27 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 00:06 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:58 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 16:34 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 20:46 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-15 14:02 +1000
Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-15 00:53 -0400
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-14 23:49 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:51 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 16:17 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 23:17 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 21:43 -0600
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 17:36 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 13:36 -0600
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 07:21 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:31 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 04:24 +0000
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-15 14:35 +1000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 00:39 -0400
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 07:16 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:51 +0000
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 16:23 -0600
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-15 06:07 +0100
Re: Floppies Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2025-09-15 07:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-15 08:35 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-15 09:47 +0200
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 16:16 -0400
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:24 +0100
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-15 22:35 +0200
Re: Floppies Øyvind Røtvold <orotvold@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 17:30 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 19:33 +0000
Re: Floppies Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 14:38 -0700
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 17:06 -0600
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-16 06:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-16 06:46 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 09:58 +0100
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-16 11:38 -0400
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 17:36 +0000
Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-16 20:34 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 20:35 +0000
Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 18:47 -0400
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 13:42 -0600
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-17 10:44 +1000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 02:51 +0000
Readability of source code (was: Re: Floppies) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:51 +0100
Re: Readability of source code ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-17 11:16 +0000
Re: Readability of source code lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-17 10:56 -0600
Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 23:16 -0600
Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-17 08:13 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 19:49 +0000
Re: Floppies Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2025-09-17 11:47 -0700
Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-18 09:23 +1000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 16:00 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 03:23 +0000
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 09:28 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 19:40 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:13 +0200
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:19 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 20:35 +0200
Re: Floppies peter london <peterlondon@chimia.se> - 2025-09-15 21:40 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 23:10 +0000
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-19 20:01 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
Tomato joke. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:24 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
Translations "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:00 +0200
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:57 +0100
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:46 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 11:12 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:36 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:28 -0700
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 19:05 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:28 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
"They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-23 08:03 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:23 -0700
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:37 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:34 +0000
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:21 +0000
Re: "They" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:00 +0200
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 02:52 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:48 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 11:13 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
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