Re: "They"

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject	Re: "They"
Date	2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
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On Tue, 23 Sep 2025 17:37:07 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> The English name "Japan" derives from the Malay name Jepang, which
> itself is from the Hokkien Chinese Ji̍t-pún and Middle Chinese Nippon (日
> 本), meaning "the sun's origin" or "Land of the Rising Sun". This name
> reflects Japan's eastern position relative to China and was introduced
> to Europe by Portuguese traders in the 16th century

I see Japan as the eastern version of England. Kanji is basically Chinese 
script although the pronunciation and meaning may or may not be the same. 
Buddhism came from China and Korea. Rice came from Korea or they'd still 
be hunter-gatherers. Still, a third generation Korean is still a goddamn 
Korean and relations with China are fraught.

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  Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
    Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
      Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
      Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
          Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
              Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
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        Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
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            Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
              Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
                Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
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          Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
            Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 13:22 +0000
              Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-29 08:23 -0700
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  Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
    Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
      Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
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        Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
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            Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
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                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                "They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
                Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
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                Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:37 +0100
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:34 +0000
                Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
                Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
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                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 02:52 +0000
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                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:23 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:02 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-09-25 17:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
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              Re: Lingua franca rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:58 +0000
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                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:09 +0200
              Re: Lingua franca Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:07 +0200
        Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 13:35 +0000
        Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:16 +0200
      Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:22 +0000
      Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200
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        Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-27 16:28 +0000
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        Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:56 +0100
          Re: Floppies ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-23 15:21 +0000
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:35 +0000
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