Readability of source code (was: Re: Floppies)

From	Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.usage.english, alt.english.usage
Subject	Readability of source code (was: Re: Floppies)
Date	2025-09-17 11:51 +0100
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On 2025-09-17, rbowman wrote:

> On Wed, 17 Sep 2025 10:44:44 +1000, Peter Moylan wrote:
>
>> These days, I must admit, I also spend a lot of time revising my
>> programs. My deteriorating eyesight means that I make a lot more typos
>> than I used to, so my first compilation of a program will give a couple
>> of dozen error messages. Then I fix those, compile again, and still get
>> a bunch of error messages. It's a time-wasting approach, compared with
>> getting it right the first time, but that's what I have been reduced to.
>
> I had some eye surgeries a couple of years ago but prior to that I had 
> fun. Python has list comprehensions that use [] and generator expressions 
> that use (). The generators save memory but they are a one-shot and you 
> can't iterate over the same generator twice. A list comprehension is built 
> in memory and can be reused.
>
> Of course, I used () by mistake and couldn't figure out why it worked one 
> time and the difference between [ and ( on a laptop screen didn't exactly 
> jump out at me.

The choice of font or rendering method can affect this a lot, just for a
small comparison, take Terminus and LatArCyrHeb, the former seems, at
least for some sizes, to focus on "thinner" lines, the latter has
"blocky" chars. Depending on your eyesight, I guess you may prefer one
or the other simply based on that.

Under X11, in my experience it often boils down to anything with
antialiasing rendering worse. It easily loses the contrast and sharpness
that comes for granted with a bitmap font. (Yes, things can be tweaked
in the font rendering library for non-bitmap fonts, but I've yet to
achieve something that's as readable as bitmap fonts.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 20:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 02:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:39 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:08 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:24 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:42 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:25 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 14:03 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 21:49 +0200
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-20 00:18 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 04:57 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 07:48 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 22:38 -0700
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-19 12:05 +0200
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-19 07:58 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:37 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:10 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 01:55 +0100
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 23:21 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 09:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:27 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 09:07 +1000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 00:20 -0400
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-19 14:57 +1000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-19 11:41 -0600
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-19 18:55 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-20 14:44 +1000
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:09 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 19:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 01:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 05:17 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-18 13:22 +0200
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-18 12:40 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 08:56 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 18:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-18 14:22 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:50 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-18 23:50 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-19 04:51 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-19 10:01 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-19 18:32 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 03:55 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:34 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:29 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:15 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:59 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:16 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:54 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:37 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:10 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 03:27 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-18 00:06 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-18 20:58 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 16:34 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 20:46 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-15 14:02 +1000
                Re: Floppies Rich Ulrich <rich.ulrich@comcast.net> - 2025-09-15 00:53 -0400
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-14 23:49 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:51 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 16:17 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 23:17 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 21:43 -0600
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 17:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 13:36 -0600
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 07:21 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:31 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 04:24 +0000
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-15 14:35 +1000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 00:39 -0400
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 07:16 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 16:51 +0000
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-15 16:23 -0600
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-15 06:07 +0100
                Re: Floppies Aidan Kehoe <kehoea@parhasard.net> - 2025-09-15 07:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-15 08:35 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-15 09:47 +0200
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-15 16:16 -0400
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 21:24 +0100
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-15 22:35 +0200
                Re: Floppies Øyvind Røtvold <orotvold@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 17:30 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-16 19:33 +0000
                Re: Floppies Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2025-09-16 14:38 -0700
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 17:06 -0600
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-16 06:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-16 06:46 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-16 09:58 +0100
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-16 11:38 -0400
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 17:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bertel Lund Hansen <rundtosset@lundhansen.dk> - 2025-09-16 20:34 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-16 20:35 +0000
                Re: Floppies c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-17 18:47 -0400
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 13:42 -0600
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-17 10:44 +1000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 02:51 +0000
                Readability of source code (was: Re: Floppies) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-17 11:51 +0100
                Re: Readability of source code ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-17 11:16 +0000
                Re: Readability of source code lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-17 10:56 -0600
                Re: Floppies lar3ryca <larry@invalid.ca> - 2025-09-16 23:16 -0600
                Re: Floppies Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> - 2025-09-17 08:13 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-17 19:49 +0000
                Re: Floppies Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com> - 2025-09-17 11:47 -0700
                Re: Floppies Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> - 2025-09-18 09:23 +1000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 16:00 -0700
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 03:23 +0000
              Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-15 09:28 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 19:40 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 22:13 +0200
              Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:19 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 20:35 +0200
                Re: Floppies peter london <peterlondon@chimia.se> - 2025-09-15 21:40 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 23:10 +0000
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-19 20:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
                Tomato joke. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:24 +0200
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
                Translations "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:00 +0200
                Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
                Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
                Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:57 +0100
                Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
                Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:46 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 11:12 -0700
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:28 -0700
                Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 19:05 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:28 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                "They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
                Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
                Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
                Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:21 +0000
                Re: "They" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:00 +0200
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:48 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 11:13 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:23 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:02 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
                Re: Lingua franca rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Lingua franca The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:12 +0100
                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:09 +0200
                Re: Lingua franca Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:07 +0200
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 13:35 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200
                Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:24 +0000
                Re: Floppies Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:11 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:28 +0200
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 20:12 +0000
          Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:02 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-14 18:16 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-14 20:16 +0000
        Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-09-14 17:28 -0400
  Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Mark Lloyd <not.email@all.invalid> - 2025-09-14 17:58 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-14 23:02 +0000
      Re: Microsoft Is Abandoning Windows 11 SE rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 01:44 +0000

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