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| From | John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc |
| Subject | Re: Floppies |
| Date | 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
| Message-ID | <20250922083540.0000535b@gmail.com> (permalink) |
| References | (21 earlier) <68cdb6b5$0$12931$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <j4t0qlx6ar.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <68cea06f$0$3385$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <ve83qlxpu7.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <68d0070f$0$11426$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
On 21 Sep 2025 14:09:19 GMT Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: > Yes, it's impossible to translate, the only way is to find something > similar. It's not always possible. Here a crude translation could only > lost on way to understand it, the understanding remains, but the joke > is lost. Puns are probably the hardest thing to translate; sometimes coincidence or shared linguistic heritage hands you an easy one, and sometimes (as in your example) a change in particulars allows the translator to get the gist of the joke across even if it's technically saying something different...but sometimes there's just nothing you can do, and the harder you try the more tortured the result gets... > I can see footnotes used in the same way in other books. But it's > different. A joke explained is never as funny as a joke understood. Sometimes there's just no helping it, though. Been on a kick digging into medieval beast fables this year, and that's enough of a culture gap all by itself, even before before you get to the satire on the abuses of the clergy in the 12th century or cases where a particular Latin pun is so bad that the original author has to stop and explain just how bad it is...!
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Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-19 20:01 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
Tomato joke. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:24 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
Translations "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:00 +0200
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:57 +0100
Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 13:22 +0000
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:46 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 11:12 -0700
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:36 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:28 -0700
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 19:05 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:28 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
"They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-23 08:03 +0100
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:23 -0700
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:37 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:34 +0000
Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:21 +0000
Re: "They" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:00 +0200
Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 02:52 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:48 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 11:13 -0700
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:43 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:23 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:02 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Allodoxaphobia <trepidation@example.net> - 2025-09-25 17:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
Re: Lingua franca rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:58 +0000
Re: Lingua franca The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:12 +0100
Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:09 +0200
Re: Lingua franca Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:07 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 13:35 +0000
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:16 +0200
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:22 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:24 +0000
Re: Floppies Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:11 +0000
Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:28 +0200
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-27 16:28 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-27 19:09 +0100
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 12:47 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-27 13:52 +0100
Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:17 +0200
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:56 +0100
Re: Floppies ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-23 15:21 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:35 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:39 +0000
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:05 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:37 +0100
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:53 +0000
Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 18:14 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:19 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-25 19:31 +0000
Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 00:28 +0100
Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:07 +0000
Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:23 +0000
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 14:26 +0000
Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-27 14:10 +0000
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