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Re: Floppies

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc
Subject Re: Floppies
Date 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
Organization A little, after lunch
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On 21/09/2025 03:41, rbowman wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Sep 2025 19:05:14 +0100, Richard Kettlewell wrote:
> 
>> While I think English benefits from not having an Académie Anglaise
>> ruling on vocabulary and grammar, it also suffers from never having had
>> a (successful[1]) spelling reform.
> 
> Thanks the Gods... Dewey of the Dewey Decimal System tried and even had
> people like Teddy Roosevelt signed on for a while. He even tried to change
> his surname to Dui but that didn't stick luckily.  In many jurisdictions
> that's 'driving under the influence'.

Actually English underwent a huge spelling reform when they invented 
printing.

The printers became de facto arbiters of 'correct' spelling and many of 
them came from the Netherlands and Germany.

That is when we lost the 'Thorn'  letter =  Þ, (th) often written 
instead as a 'Y' - hence Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe' etc.

Printers didnt have it in their fonts.

Still more had a smattering of Latin or Greek and would ponce up their 
words to make them look Latin or Greek, when they were not.

I do recommend the you tube channel 'Words Unravelled' for the most 
amusing romp through the etymology and history of words. Both American 
and English.

The problem with English is that it's the ultimate lingua franca and a 
complete mongrel.

Every region of the world has its own dialect, with local words and 
pronunciation variations.

For instant I find 'Appalachian' instantly understandable as old 
fashioned English country speech.

And some of the more European derived dialects like Cajun, far less 
approachable.

But then anyone who can follow fast speech in Glaswegian or Liverpudlian 
gets a hat tip from me.

It may be English, but not as we know it, Jim.


-- 
"Socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. They 
always run out of other people's money. It's quite a characteristic of them"

Margaret Thatcher

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Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-15 10:19 +0100
  Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-15 20:35 +0200
    Re: Floppies peter london <peterlondon@chimia.se> - 2025-09-15 21:40 +0200
      Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-15 23:10 +0000
    Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-19 20:01 +0000
      Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-19 23:04 +0200
        Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 12:39 +0000
          Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:46 +0100
          Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:30 +0200
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:37 +0000
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 05:01 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 06:26 +0000
                Re: Floppies Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-09-22 07:04 +0200
            Tomato joke. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:24 +0200
            Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:09 +0000
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 18:36 +0000
              Translations "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:00 +0200
                Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 21:32 +0100
                Re: Translations rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 01:16 +0000
                Re: Translations The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:42 +0100
              Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:57 +0100
              Re: Floppies John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-09-22 08:35 -0700
      Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-20 12:15 +0200
        Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-20 14:43 +0000
          Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 16:27 +0100
            Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-20 17:46 +0000
              Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 11:12 -0700
              Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:36 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-20 15:28 -0700
          Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-20 19:05 +0100
            Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 02:41 +0000
              Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 09:32 +0100
                Re: Floppies Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:00 +0100
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 10:28 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                "They" (was: Re: Floppies) vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-09-21 23:12 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: "They" (was: Re: Floppies) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 07:57 +0000
                Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-22 09:31 +0100
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 08:47 -0700
                Re: "They" Pancho <Pancho.Jones@protonmail.com> - 2025-09-23 08:03 +0100
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-23 09:23 -0700
                Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 17:37 +0100
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:44 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 02:34 +0000
                Re: "They" The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:46 +0100
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:22 +0000
                Re: "They" ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-22 13:49 +0000
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 18:21 +0000
                Re: "They" "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:00 +0200
                Re: "They" Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-22 15:19 -0700
                Re: "They" Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: "They" rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 02:52 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:48 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 11:13 -0700
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:14 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 20:30 +0000
                Re: Floppies Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-09-21 13:50 -0700
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 01:38 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-22 13:43 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-22 17:22 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-22 19:23 +0000
                Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-22 22:02 +0200
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 00:07 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:35 +0200
                Re: Lingua franca rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Lingua franca The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:12 +0100
                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:09 +0200
                Re: Lingua franca Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-21 19:06 +0000
                Re: Lingua franca "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 22:07 +0200
            Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 13:35 +0000
            Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:16 +0200
          Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-20 18:22 +0000
          Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-20 20:54 +0200
            Re: Floppies Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-09-21 14:24 +0000
          Re: Floppies Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2025-09-21 11:11 +0000
            Re: Floppies "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-09-21 15:28 +0200
          Re: Floppies Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> - 2025-09-23 16:17 +0200
            Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-23 15:56 +0100
              Re: Floppies ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-09-23 15:21 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-23 18:35 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 21:39 +0000
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:05 +0000
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 05:06 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 11:37 +0100
                Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-24 16:53 +0000
                Re: Floppies The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 18:14 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-25 00:19 +0000
                Re: Floppies Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-09-24 00:28 +0100
                Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-24 04:07 +0000
              Re: Floppies Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-09-23 18:23 +0000
  Re: Floppies rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-09-15 20:12 +0000

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