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Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour

From "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
Newsgroups aus.computers
Subject Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour
Date 2026-04-18 11:49 +1000
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
>>>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

>>>>>>>>> "This shouldn't come as a surprise. After all, "AI" tools have no
>>>>>>>>>  understanding, no intelligence, no context, and they can't
>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>  make sense of anything. They are glorified pachinko machines  
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>  the output - the ball - tumbling down the most likely path  
>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>  the pins based on nothing but chance and which pins it has  
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>  hit.

>>>>>>>> Just did this one,
>>>>>>>> https://grok.com/share/bGVnYWN5_ff894a2f-e630-4557-92e9-435a87b51d91

>>>>>>>> That result is nothing even remotely like what you would
>>>>>>>> get from a glorified pachinko machine and yes I got that
>>>>>>>> question from that news item in the ABC Just In feed and
>>>>>>>> didnt get as useful a result from google

>> You just ignored that

> What, that you can't Google?

I can and do google

No, that that result is nothing even remotely like what
you would get from a glorified pachinko machine

>>>>>>> I get this page from a brewery by searching for "handles of beer"
>>>>>>> with Duck Duck Go, which contradicts the "425-450mL" range given
>>>>>>> in your AI answer

>>>>>> The grok response accurately points out that
>>>>>> the volume varys with the location, fuckwit

>>>>> But inaccurately states the volume only varies between in range of
>>>>> 425-450mL

>>>> Bullshit it does

>>>>> and always matches a schooner.

>>>> It doesn't say that either

>>> It says it over and over from the start:

>> Bullshit on your ALWAYS lie

>>> "18 handles of beer" refers to 18 schooners (or pints) of beer in
>>>  Australian slang"
>>> "A "handle" is a common term for a schooner"
>>> "So, "18 handles" means the person drank 18 schooners"

>> Pity about
>>
>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

> Like the USSD definition,

There was no USSD definition

> in normal grammar the qualification at   theend would only apply to the  
> part after the "--".

Pity about the DEPENDING ON THE STATE
you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist

>>>>>>> and disputes that it's the same as a schooner in the NT:

>>>>>>> https://stoneandwood.com.au/blogs/all/our-guide-to-australias-beer-sizes-and-names

>>>>>>> "The Northern Territory's beer sizes

>>>>>> Pity we arent discussing the NT, fuckwit

>>>>> Your question to the AI never mentioned any location.

>>>> But it did accurately work out where I was getting that
>>>> phrase from, presumably by checking when that phrase has
>>>> been used recently, something google wouldn't have done

>>> Which is no excuse for providing an answer that doesn't apply in
>>> the NT when it doesn't even know for sure that the ABC article was
>>> what prompted your question.

>> But it did work that out. So much for your
>> stupid glorified pachinko machine stupidty

>>> Plus it clearly said it applied   Australia-wide.

>> Bullshit it does with

> He says while snipping where it said that.

>>        A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
>>        a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
>>        425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

Pity about the

         A "handle" is a common term for a schooner --
         a beer glass with a handle, typically holding around
         425-450 ml (about 15 oz) of beer, depending on the state.

Which you carefully omitted from what you quoted

> And replacing it with where talked about something else.

Bullshit it talked about something else

>>>>> It was speaking about all of Australia and in the NT it could be way
>>>>> off.

>>>> But isnt with Flinders Island which is where the phrase was used

>>>> And you don't even know if the stoneandwood is accurate even for the  
>>>> NT

>>> Well my source is an Australian brewery, your Artificial Idiot's
>>> source is... nothing.

>> Pity about the SOURCES it lists, you pathetic excuse for a bullshit  
>> artist

>>> No cites except the very ABC article that
>>> prompted your question. So there's no way to judge the accuracy
>>> of its statement since you can only guess where it might have got
>>> the info from.

>> Even a terminal fuckwit like you should be able to check the SOURCES

> Yeah, sources full of random Reddit discussions,

More of your barefaced lies on the random

> which it probably  paid attention to insteadof   better results like the  
> brewery I found.

Bullshit it did and it basically said the same
thing, that handle normally means 425-450 ml

> But since it doesn't say specificallywhere   it got those  facts it  
> stated from,

Yet another bare faced lie

> you can't tell. Useless.

Yet another bare faced lie

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                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-18 11:49 +1000
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                Re: Testing suggests Google's AI Overviews tell millions of lies per hour "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2026-04-27 14:07 +1000

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