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  Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-16 19:32 -0500
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 17:41 -0700
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:25 -0800
    sci.physics spammers grading Nobel Laureates as to Global Warming and Real Electron=105MeV, Real Proton=840MeV with .5MeV particle as Dirac's Magnetic Monopole Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 18:35 -0800
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-16 21:41 -0500
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 10:53 -0600
        Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 12:29 -0500
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 14:05 -0600
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 16:57 -0500
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 14:58 -0700
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:19 -0500
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                    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:55 -0500
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    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:24 -0800
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 11:49 -0600

#713009 — Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist...

I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches 
an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
caused the recent Mini Ice Age. 

More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.

How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum. 

-- 

Yours Truly,
Gregory Hall

"When the people find that they can vote themselves money 
that will herald the end of the Republic." --Benjamin Franklin

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#713011

On 2018-11-16 5:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> 
> 
> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
> 
> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
> 
> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
> 
ok , i'll help , after it gets really warm ,
it's going to get really cold just like it always has ,
do some real research find out where the mountain ,
you say you live on come from

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#713036

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <bokdk7.3oi.19.1@news.alt.net>, persent@gmail.com 
says...


<)--->
<)--->On 2018-11-16 5:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
<)--->> 
<)--->> 
<)--->> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
<)--->> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
<)--->> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
<)--->> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
<)--->> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
<)--->> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
<)--->> 
<)--->> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
<)--->> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
<)--->> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
<)--->> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
<)--->> 
<)--->> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
<)--->> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
<)--->> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
<)--->> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
<)--->> 
<)--->ok , i'll help , after it gets really warm ,
<)--->it's going to get really cold just like it always has ,
<)--->do some real research find out where the mountain ,
<)--->you say you live on come from

"Old Sol"  How trite.

-- 
Checkmate ® 
Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller           
Copyright © 2018 
all rights reserved

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

"There are many here among us, 
who feel that life is but a joke."

"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as 
kensi."    -Nadegda  
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#713024 — sci.physics spammers grading Nobel Laureates as to Global Warming and Real Electron=105MeV, Real Proton=840MeV with .5MeV particle as Dirac's Magnetic Monopole

On Friday, November 16, 2018 at 6:32:35 PM UTC-6, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches 
> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
> caused the recent Mini Ice Age. 
> 
> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
> 
> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum. 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Yours Truly,
> Gregory Hall
> 
> "When the people find that they can vote themselves money 
> that will herald the end of the Republic." --Benjamin Franklin

Physics Nobel laureates (Source: Wikipedia)

Laureates[edit]
Year	Image	Laureate[A]	Country[B]	Rationale[C]	Ref
1901	WilhelmRöntgen.JPG	Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen	 Germany	"in recognition of the extraordinary services he has rendered by the discovery of the remarkable rays subsequently named after him"	[9]
1902	H A Lorentz (Nobel).jpg	Hendrik Lorentz	 Netherlands	"in recognition of the extraordinary service they rendered by their researches into the influence of magnetism upon radiation phenomena"	[10]
Pieter Zeeman.jpg	Pieter Zeeman	 Netherlands
1903	Portrait of Antoine-Henri Becquerel.jpg	Antoine Henri Becquerel	 France	"for his discovery of spontaneous radioactivity"	[11]
PierreCurie.jpg	Pierre Curie	 France	"for their joint researches on the radiation phenomena discovered by Professor Henri Becquerel"	[11]
Mariecurie.jpg	Maria Skłodowska-Curie	 Poland
 France
1904	John William Strutt.jpg	Lord Rayleigh	 United Kingdom	"for his investigations of the densities of the most important gases and for his discovery of argon in connection with these studies"	[12]
1905	Phillipp Lenard in 1900.jpg	Philipp Eduard Anton von Lenard	 Austria-Hungary
 Germany	"for his work on cathode rays"	[13]
1906	J.J Thomson.jpg	Joseph John Thomson	 United Kingdom	"for his theoretical and experimental investigations on the conduction of electricity by gases"	[14]
1907	Albert Abraham Michelson2.jpg	Albert Abraham Michelson	 United States
 Poland	"for his optical precision instruments and the spectroscopic and metrological investigations carried out with their aid"	[15]
1908	G lippmann.jpg	Gabriel Lippmann	 France	"for his method of reproducing colours photographically based on the phenomenon of interference"	[16]
1909	Guglielmo Marconi.jpg	Guglielmo Marconi	 Italy	"for their contributions to the development of wireless telegraphy"	[17]
Ferdinand Braun.jpg	Karl Ferdinand Braun	 Germany
1910	Johannes Diderik van der Waals.jpg	Johannes Diderik van der Waals	 Netherlands	"for his work on the equation of state for gases and liquids"	[18]
1911	Wilhelm Wien 1911.jpg	Wilhelm Wien	 Germany	"for his discoveries regarding the laws governing the radiation of heat"	[19]
1912	Nils Gustaf Dalén.jpg	Nils Gustaf Dalén	 Sweden	"for his invention of automatic valves designed to be used in combination with gas accumulators in lighthouses and buoys"	[20]
1913	Kamerlingh portret.jpg	Heike Kamerlingh-Onnes	 Netherlands	"for his investigations on the properties of matter at low temperatures which led, inter alia, to the production of liquid helium"	[21]
1914	Max von Laue 1914.jpg	Max von Laue	 Germany	"For his discovery of the diffraction of X-rays by crystals", an important step in the development of X-ray spectroscopy.	[22]
1915	Wh-bragg.jpg	William Henry Bragg	 United Kingdom	"For their services in the analysis of crystal structure by means of X-rays", an important step in the development of X-ray crystallography	[23]
Wl-bragg.jpg	William Lawrence Bragg	 Australia
 United Kingdom
1916	Not awarded World War I
1917	Charles Glover Barkla.jpg	Charles Glover Barkla	 United Kingdom	"For his discovery of the characteristic Röntgen radiation of the elements", another important step in the development of X-ray spectroscopy	[24]
1918	Max Planck 1933.jpg	Max Planck	 Germany	"for the services he rendered to the advancement of physics by his discovery of energy quanta"	[25]
1919	Johannes Stark.jpg	Johannes Stark	 Germany	"for his discovery of the Doppler effect in canal rays and the splitting of spectral lines in electric fields"	[26]
1920	Guillaume 1920.jpg	Charles Édouard Guillaume	  Switzerland	"for the service he has rendered to precision measurements in physics by his discovery of anomalies in nickel-steel alloys"	[27]
1921	Einstein1921 by F Schmutzer 4.jpg	Albert Einstein	 Germany
  Switzerland	"for his services to theoretical physics, and especially for his discovery of the law of the photoelectric effect"	[8]
1922	Niels Bohr.jpg	Niels Bohr	 Denmark	"for his services in the investigation of the structure of atoms and of the radiation emanating from them"	[28]
1923	Robert Andrews Millikan 1920s.jpg	Robert Andrews Millikan	 United States	"for his work on the elementary charge of electricity and on the photoelectric effect"	[29]
1924	1924 Karl Manne Siegbahn.jpg	Manne Siegbahn	 Sweden	"for his discoveries and research in the field of X-ray spectroscopy"	[30]
1925	James Franck 1925.jpg	James Franck	 Germany	"for their discovery of the laws governing the impact of an electron upon an atom"	[31]
Gustav Hertz.jpg	Gustav Hertz	 Germany
1926	Jean Perrin 1926.jpg	Jean Baptiste Perrin	 France	"for his work on the discontinuous structure of matter, and especially for his discovery of sedimentation equilibrium"	[32]
1927	Arthur Compton.jpg	Arthur Holly Compton	 United States	"for his discovery of the effect named after him"	[33]
CTR Wilson.jpg	Charles Thomson Rees Wilson	 United Kingdom	"for his method of making the paths of electrically charged particles visible by condensation of vapour"	[33]
1928	Owen Richardson.jpg	Owen Willans Richardson	 United Kingdom	"for his work on the thermionic phenomenon and especially for the discovery of the law named after him"	[34]
1929	Broglie Big.jpg	Louis Victor Pierre Raymond, 7th Duc de Broglie	 France	"for his discovery of the wave nature of electrons"	[35]
1930	Sir CV Raman.JPG	Chandrasekhara Venkata Raman	 India	"for his work on the scattering of light and for the discovery of the effect named after him"	[36]
1931	Not awarded
1932	Bundesarchiv Bild183-R57262, Werner Heisenberg.jpg	Werner Heisenberg	 Germany	"for the creation of quantum mechanics, the application of which has, inter alia, led to the discovery of the allotropic forms of hydrogen"	[37]
1933	Erwin Schrödinger (1933).jpg	Erwin Schrödinger	 Austria	"for the discovery of new productive forms of atomic theory"	[38]
Dirac 4.jpg	Paul Dirac	 United Kingdom
1934	Not awarded
1935	James Chadwick.tif	James Chadwick	 United Kingdom	"for the discovery of the neutron"	[39]
1936	Hess.jpg	Victor Francis Hess	 Austria	"for his discovery of cosmic radiation"	[40]
Carl David Anderson.jpg	Carl David Anderson	 United States	"for his discovery of the positron"	[40]
1937	Clinton Davisson.jpg	Clinton Joseph Davisson	 United States	"for their experimental discovery of the diffraction of electrons by crystals"	[41]
George Paget Thomson.jpg	George Paget Thomson	 United Kingdom
1938	Enrico Fermi 1943-49 140x190.jpg	Enrico Fermi	 Italy	"for his demonstrations of the existence of new radioactive elements produced by neutron irradiation, and for his related discovery of nuclear reactions brought about by slow neutrons"	[42]
1939	Ernest Lawrence.jpg	Ernest Lawrence	 United States	"for the invention and development of the cyclotron and for results obtained with it, especially with regard to artificial radioactive elements"	[43]
1940	Not awarded World War II
1941	Not awarded World War II
1942	Not awarded World War II
1943	Otto Stern.jpg	Otto Stern	 United States
 Germany	"for his contribution to the development of the molecular ray method and his discovery of the magnetic moment of the proton"	[44]
1944	II Rabi.jpg	Isidor Isaac Rabi	 United States
 Poland	"for his resonance method for recording the magnetic properties of atomic nuclei"	[45]
1945	Pauli.jpg	Wolfgang Pauli	 Austria	"for the discovery of the Exclusion Principle, also called the Pauli principle"	[46]
1946	Bridgman.jpg	Percy Williams Bridgman	 United States	"for the invention of an apparatus to produce extremely high pressures, and for the discoveries he made there within the field of high pressure physics"	[47]
1947	Appleton.jpg	Edward Victor Appleton	 United Kingdom	"for his investigations of the physics of the upper atmosphere especially for the discovery of the so-called Appleton layer"	[48]
1948	Blackett-large.jpg	Patrick Maynard Stuart Blackett	 United Kingdom	"for his development of the Wilson cloud chamber method, and his discoveries therewith in the fields of nuclear physics and cosmic radiation"	[49]
1949	Yukawa.jpg	Hideki Yukawa	 Japan	"for his prediction of the existence of mesons on the basis of theoretical work on nuclear forces"	[50]
1950	Cecil Powell.jpg	Cecil Frank Powell	 United Kingdom	"for his development of the photographic method of studying nuclear processes and his discoveries regarding mesons made with this method"	[51]
1951	Cockcroft.jpg	John Douglas Cockcroft	 United Kingdom	"for their pioneer work on the transmutation of atomic nuclei by artificially accelerated atomic particles"	[52]
Ernest Walton.jpg	Ernest Thomas Sinton Walton	 Ireland
1952	Felix Bloch, Stanford University.jpg	Felix Bloch	  Switzerland
 United States	"for their development of new methods for nuclear magnetic precision measurements and discoveries in connection therewith"	[53]
Edward Mills Purcell.jpg	Edward Mills Purcell	 United States
1953	Zernike.jpg	Frits Zernike	 Netherlands	"for his demonstration of the phase contrast method, especially for his invention of the phase contrast microscope"	[54]
1954	Max Born.jpg	Max Born	 West Germany	"for his fundamental research in quantum mechanics, especially for his statistical interpretation of the wavefunction"	[55]
Bothe.jpg	Walther Bothe	 West Germany	"for the coincidence method and his discoveries made therewith"	[55]
1955	Willis Lamb 1955.jpg	Willis Eugene Lamb	 United States	"for his discoveries concerning the fine structure of the hydrogen spectrum"	[56]
Polykarp Kusch.jpg	Polykarp Kusch	 United States
 Germany	"for his precision determination of the magnetic moment of the electron"	[56]
1956	Bardeen.jpg	John Bardeen	 United States	"for their researches on semiconductors and their discovery of the transistor effect"	[57]
Brattain.jpg	Walter Houser Brattain	 United States
William Shockley, Stanford University.jpg	William Bradford Shockley	 United States
1957	TD Lee.jpg	Tsung-Dao Lee	 Republic of China	"for their penetrating investigation of the so-called parity laws which has led to important discoveries regarding the elementary particles"	[58]
CNYang.jpg	Chen-Ning Yang	 Republic of China
1958	Cerenkov.jpg	Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov	 Soviet Union	"for the discovery and the interpretation of the Cherenkov effect"	[59]
Ilya Frank.jpg	Ilya Frank	 Soviet Union
Igor Tamm.jpg	Igor Yevgenyevich Tamm	 Soviet Union
1959	Segre.jpg	Emilio Gino Segrè	 Italy
 United States	"for their discovery of the antiproton"	[60]
Owen Chamberlain.jpg	Owen Chamberlain	 United States
1960	Donald Glaser 1.jpg	Donald Arthur Glaser	 United States	"for the invention of the bubble chamber"	[61]
1961	Robert Hofstadter.jpg	Robert Hofstadter	 United States	"for his pioneering studies of electron scattering in atomic nuclei and for his thereby achieved discoveries concerning the structure of the nucleons"	[62]
Mossbauer.jpg	Rudolf Ludwig Mössbauer	 West Germany	"for his researches concerning the resonance absorption of gamma radiation and his discovery in this connection of the effect which bears his name"	[62]
1962	Landau.jpg	Lev Davidovich Landau	 Soviet Union	"for his pioneering theories for condensed matter, especially liquid helium"	[63]
1963	Wigner.jpg	Eugene Paul Wigner	 Hungary
 United States	"for his contributions to the theory of the atomic nucleus and the elementary particles, particularly through the discovery and application of fundamental symmetry principles"	[64]
Maria Goeppert-Mayer.jpg	Maria Goeppert-Mayer	 United States	"for their discoveries concerning nuclear shell structure"	[64]
Johannes Hans Daniel Jensen (1907–1973).jpg	J. Hans D. Jensen	 West Germany
1964	Basov.jpg	Nicolay Gennadiyevich Basov	 Soviet Union	"for fundamental work in the field of quantum electronics, which has led to the construction of oscillators and amplifiers based on the maser–laser principle"	[65]
Aleksandr Prokhorov.jpg	Alexander Prokhorov	 Soviet Union
Charles Townes Nobel.jpg	Charles Hard Townes	 United States
1965	Richard Feynman Nobel.jpg	Richard Phillips Feynman	 United States	"for their fundamental work in quantum electrodynamics (QED), with deep-ploughing consequences for the physics of elementary particles"	[66]
Schwinger.jpg	Julian Schwinger	 United States
Tomonaga.jpg	Shin'ichirō Tomonaga	 Japan
1966	Kastler.jpg	Alfred Kastler	 France	"for the discovery and development of optical methods for studying Hertzian resonances in atoms"	[67]
1967	Hans Bethe.jpg	Hans Albrecht Bethe	 United States
 Germany	"for his contributions to the theory of nuclear reactions, especially his discoveries concerning the energy production in stars"	[68]
1968	LWA Picture Final.jpg	Luis Walter Alvarez	 United States	"for his decisive contributions to elementary particle physics, in particular the discovery of a large number of resonance states, made possible through his development of the technique of using hydrogen bubble chamber and data analysis"	[69]
1969	MurrayGellMannJI1.jpg	Murray Gell-Mann	 United States	"for his contributions and discoveries concerning the classification of elementary particles and their interactions"	[70]
1970	YoungAlfven.jpg	Hannes Olof Gösta Alfvén	 Sweden	"for fundamental work and discoveries in magneto-hydrodynamics with fruitful applications in different parts of plasma physics"	[71]
Louis Neel 1970.jpg	Louis Néel	 France	"for fundamental work and discoveries concerning antiferromagnetism and ferrimagnetism which have led to important applications in solid state physics"	[71]
1971	Dennis Gabor 1971b.jpg	Dennis Gabor	 Hungary
 United Kingdom	"for his invention and development of the holographic method"	[72]
1972	Bardeen.jpg	John Bardeen	 United States	"for their jointly developed theory of superconductivity, usually called the BCS-theory"	[73]
Nobel Laureate Leon Cooper in 2007.jpg	Leon Neil Cooper	 United States
John Robert Schrieffer.jpg	John Robert Schrieffer	 United States
1973	Leo Esaki 1959.jpg	Leo Esaki	 Japan	"for their experimental discoveries regarding tunneling phenomena in semiconductors and superconductors, respectively"	[74]
Ivar Giaever.jpg	Ivar Giaever	 United States
 Norway
cmglee_Cambridge_Wikimedia_Meetup_23_tour_Brian_Josephson.jpg
Brian David Josephson	 United Kingdom	"for his theoretical predictions of the properties of a supercurrent through a tunnel barrier, in particular those phenomena which are generally known as the Josephson effect"	[74]
1974	–	Martin Ryle	 United Kingdom	"for their pioneering research in radio astrophysics: Ryle for his observations and inventions, in particular of the aperture synthesis technique, and Hewish for his decisive role in the discovery of pulsars"	[75]
–	Antony Hewish	 United Kingdom
1975	Aage Bohr.jpg	Aage Bohr	 Denmark	"for the discovery of the connection between collective motion and particle motion in atomic nuclei and the development of the theory of the structure of the atomic nucleus based on this connection"	[76]
Mottelson,Ben 1963 Kopenhagen.jpg	Ben Roy Mottelson	 Denmark
James Rainwater 2.jpg	Leo James Rainwater	 United States
1976	Burton Richter - charm quark.jpg	Burton Richter	 United States	"for their pioneering work in the discovery of a heavy elementary particle of a new kind"	[77]
Samuel ting 10-19-10.jpg	Samuel Chao Chung Ting	 United States
1977	Andersonphoto.jpg	Philip Warren Anderson	 United States	"for their fundamental theoretical investigations of the electronic structure of magnetic and disordered systems"	[78]
Mott,Nevill Francis Heisenberg 1952 London.jpg	Nevill Francis Mott	 United Kingdom
JH van Vleck 1974.jpg	John Hasbrouck Van Vleck	 United States
1978	Pyotr L Kapitsa Russian physicist 1964.jpg	Pyotr Leonidovich Kapitsa	 Soviet Union	"for his basic inventions and discoveries in the area of low-temperature physics"	[79]
Arno Penzias.jpg	Arno Allan Penzias	 United States	"for their discovery of cosmic microwave background radiation"	[79]
Wilson penzias200.jpg	Robert Woodrow Wilson	 United States
1979	Sheldon Glashow at Harvard cropped.jpg	Sheldon Lee Glashow	 United States	"for their contributions to the theory of the unified weak and electromagnetic interaction between elementary particles, including, inter alia, the prediction of the weak neutral current"	[80]
Abdus Salam 1987.jpg	Abdus Salam	 Pakistan
Steven weinberg 2010.jpg	Steven Weinberg	 United States
1980	James-cronin.jpg	James Watson Cronin	 United States	"for the discovery of violations of fundamental symmetry principles in the decay of neutral K-mesons"	[81]
Val Fitch.jpg	Val Logsdon Fitch	 United States
1981	Nicolaas Bloembergen 1981.jpg	Nicolaas Bloembergen	 Netherlands
 United States	"for their contribution to the development of laser spectroscopy"	[82]
Artur Schawlow, Stanford University.jpg	Arthur Leonard Schawlow	 United States
Kai Manne Börje Siegbahn 2.jpg	Kai Manne Börje Siegbahn	 Sweden	"for his contribution to the development of high-resolution electron spectroscopy"	[82]
1982	–	Kenneth G. Wilson	 United States	"for his theory for critical phenomena in connection with phase transitions"	[83]
1983	
Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar.gif
Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar	 India
 United States	"for his theoretical studies of the physical processes of importance to the structure and evolution of the stars"	[84]
William A. Fowler Los Alamos ID.png	William Alfred Fowler	 United States	"for his theoretical and experimental studies of the nuclear reactions of importance in the formation of the chemical elements in the universe"	[84]
1984	Carlo Rubbia 2012.jpg	Carlo Rubbia	 Italy	"for their decisive contributions to the large project, which led to the discovery of the field particles W and Z, communicators of weak interaction"	[85]
Simon Van der Meer.png	Simon van der Meer	 Netherlands
1985	Klausvonklitzing.jpg	Klaus von Klitzing	 West Germany	"for the discovery of the quantized Hall effect"	[86]
1986	–	Ernst Ruska	 West Germany	"for his fundamental work in electron optics, and for the design of the first electron microscope"	[87]
Gerd Binnig sw.jpg	Gerd Binnig	 West Germany	"for their design of the scanning tunneling microscope"	[87]
Rohrer.jpg	Heinrich Rohrer	  Switzerland
1987	Ibmgb.jpg	Johannes Georg Bednorz	 West Germany	"for their important break-through in the discovery of superconductivity in ceramic materials"	[88]
Karl Alexander Mueller.jpg	Karl Alexander Müller	  Switzerland
1988	Leon M. Lederman.jpg	Leon Max Lederman	 United States	"for the neutrino beam method and the demonstration of the doublet structure of the leptons through the discovery of the muon neutrino"	[89]
–	Melvin Schwartz	 United States
Jack-Steinberger-2008.JPG	Jack Steinberger	 United States
1989	Norman Foster Ramsey 1970 (cropped).jpg	Norman Foster Ramsey	 United States	"for the invention of the separated oscillatory fields method and its use in the hydrogen maser and other atomic clocks"	[90]
–	Hans Georg Dehmelt	 United States
 Germany	"for the development of the ion trap technique"	[90]
–	Wolfgang Paul	 West Germany
1990	Physics Nobel laureate Jerry Friedman, 2016.jpg	Jerome I. Friedman	 United States	"for their pioneering investigations concerning deep inelastic scattering of electrons on protons and bound neutrons, which have been of essential importance for the development of the quark model in particle physics"	[91]
Henry Kendall by Tom Frost crop.jpg	Henry Way Kendall	 United States
Richard E. Taylor.jpg	Richard E. Taylor	 Canada
1991	Pierre-Gilles crop.jpg	Pierre-Gilles de Gennes	 France	"for discovering that methods developed for studying order phenomena in simple systems can be generalized to more complex forms of matter, in particular to liquid crystals and polymers"	[92]
1992	CHARPAK Georges-24x50-2005 cropped.JPG	Georges Charpak	 France
 Poland	"for his invention and development of particle detectors, in particular the multiwire proportional chamber"	[93]
1993	Russell Alan Hulse.jpg	Russell Alan Hulse	 United States	"for the discovery of a new type of pulsar, a discovery that has opened up new possibilities for the study of gravitation"	[94]
2008JosephTaylor.jpg	Joseph Hooton Taylor Jr.	 United States
1994	Bertram Brockhouse.jpg	Bertram Brockhouse	 Canada	"for the development of neutron spectroscopy" and "for pioneering contributions to the development of neutron scattering techniques for studies of condensed matter"	[95]
HD.3F.113 (10347363986).jpg	Clifford Glenwood Shull	 United States	"for the development of the neutron diffraction technique" and "for pioneering contributions to the development of neutron scattering techniques for studies of condensed matter"	[95]
1995	Martin Perl - tau.jpg	Martin Lewis Perl	 United States	"for the discovery of the tau lepton" and "for pioneering experimental contributions to lepton physics"	[96]
Frederick Reines.jpg	Frederick Reines	 United States	"for the detection of the neutrino" and "for pioneering experimental contributions to lepton physics"	[96]
1996	Nobel Laureate David Morris Lee in 2007.jpg	David Morris Lee	 United States	"for their discovery of superfluidity in helium-3"	[97]
Douglas Osheroff NSF.jpg	Douglas D. Osheroff	 United States
Robert Coleman Richardson.jpg	Robert Coleman Richardson	 United States
1997	Steven Chu official portrait headshot.jpg	Steven Chu	 United States	"for development of methods to cool and trap atoms with laser light."	[98]
Claude Cohen-Tannoudji.JPG	Claude Cohen-Tannoudji	 France
William D. Phillips.jpg	William Daniel Phillips	 United States
1998	Robert Laughlin, Stanford University.jpg	Robert B. Laughlin	 United States	"for their discovery of a new form of quantum fluid with fractionally charged excitations"	[99]
Horst Störmer cropped.jpg	Horst Ludwig Störmer	 Germany
Daniel Chee Tsui.jpg	Daniel Chee Tsui	 Republic of China
 United States
1999	Gerard 't Hooft.jpg	Gerard 't Hooft	 Netherlands	"for elucidating the quantum structure of electroweak interactions in physics"	[100]
Martinus Veltman.jpg	Martinus J. G. Veltman	 Netherlands
2000	Zhores Alferov.jpg	Zhores Ivanovich Alferov	 Russia	"for developing semiconductor heterostructures used in high-speed- and optoelectronics"	[101]
Herbert Kroemer.jpg	Herbert Kroemer	 Germany
–	Jack St. Clair Kilby	 United States	"for his part in the invention of the integrated circuit"	[101]
2001	Physics Nobel Laureate Eric Allin Cornell, in June of 2015.jpg	Eric Allin Cornell	 United States	"for the achievement of Bose–Einstein condensation in dilute gases of alkali atoms, and for early fundamental studies of the properties of the condensates"	[102]
Carl Wieman.jpg	Carl Edwin Wieman	 United States
Ketterle.jpg	Wolfgang Ketterle	 Germany
2002	Raymond Davis, Jr 2001.jpg	Raymond Davis Jr.	 United States	"for pioneering contributions to astrophysics, in particular for the detection of cosmic neutrinos"	[103]
Masatoshi Koshiba 2002.jpg	Masatoshi Koshiba	 Japan
RiccardoGiacconi.jpg	Riccardo Giacconi	 Italy
 United States	"for pioneering contributions to astrophysics, which have led to the discovery of cosmic X-ray sources"	[103]
2003	AA Abrikosov ANL1.jpg	Alexei Alexeyevich Abrikosov	 Russia
 United States	"for pioneering contributions to the theory of superconductors and superfluids"	[104]
Ginzburg in MSU opaque.jpg	Vitaly Lazarevich Ginzburg	 Russia
Nobel Laureate Sir Anthony James Leggett in 2007.jpg	Anthony James Leggett	 United Kingdom
 United States
2004	David Gross LANL.jpg	David J. Gross	 United States	"for the discovery of asymptotic freedom in the theory of the strong interaction"	[105]
–	Hugh David Politzer	 United States
Nobel Laureate Frank Wilczek 2007.jpg	Frank Wilczek	 United States
2005	Roy Glauber Dec 10 2005.jpg	Roy J. Glauber	 United States	"for his contribution to the quantum theory of optical coherence"	[106]
John L. Hall.jpg	John L. Hall	 United States	"for their contributions to the development of laser-based precision spectroscopy, including the optical frequency comb technique"	[106]
Theodor W Haensch.jpg	Theodor W. Hänsch	 Germany
2006	John-C-Mather5.jpg	John C. Mather	 United States	"for their discovery of the blackbody form and anisotropy of the cosmic microwave background radiation"	[107]
George Smoot crop.jpg	George F. Smoot	 United States
2007	Albert Fert 0109.jpg	Albert Fert	 France	"for the discovery of giant magnetoresistance"	[108]
Peter Gruenberg 01.jpg	Peter Grünberg	 Germany
2008	Mkobayashi.jpg	Makoto Kobayashi	 Japan	"for the discovery of the origin of the broken symmetry which predicts the existence of at least three families of quarks in nature"	[109]
Masukawa.jpg	Toshihide Maskawa	 Japan
YoichiroNambu.jpg	Yoichiro Nambu	 Japan
 United States	"for the discovery of the mechanism of spontaneous broken symmetry in subatomic physics"	[109]
2009	Charles K. Kao cropped 2.jpg	Charles K. Kao	 Hong Kong
 United Kingdom
 United States	"for groundbreaking achievements concerning the transmission of light in fibers for optical communication"	[110]
Nobel Prize 2009-Press Conference KVA-23.jpg	Willard S. Boyle	 Canada
 United States	"for the invention of an imaging semiconductor circuit – the CCD sensor"	[110]
Nobel Prize 2009-Press Conference KVA-27.jpg	George E. Smith	 United States
2010	Andre Geim 2010-1.jpg	Andre Geim	 Russia
 United Kingdom
 Netherlands	"for groundbreaking experiments regarding the two-dimensional material graphene"	[111]
Konstantin Novoselov at MIPT.jpg	Konstantin Novoselov	 Russia
 United Kingdom
2011	Saul Perlmutter.jpg	Saul Perlmutter	 United States	"for the discovery of the accelerating expansion of the Universe through observations of distant supernovae"	[112]
Brian P Schmidt.jpg	Brian P. Schmidt	 Australia
 United States
Adam Riess.jpg	Adam G. Riess	 United States
2012	Serge Haroche - Théâtre de la Commune d'Aubervilliers - 4 mai 2009.jpg	Serge Haroche	 France	"for ground-breaking experimental methods that enable measuring and manipulation of individual quantum systems."	[113]
David Wineland 2008crop.jpg	David J. Wineland	 United States
2013	Francois Englert.jpg	François Englert	 Belgium	"for the theoretical discovery of a mechanism that contributes to our understanding of the origin of mass of subatomic particles, and which recently was confirmed through the discovery of the predicted fundamental particle, by the ATLAS and CMS experiments at CERN's Large Hadron Collider"	[114]
Higgs, Peter (1929)3.jpg	Peter Higgs	 United Kingdom
2014	Isamu Akasaki 20141211.jpg	Isamu Akasaki	 Japan	"for the invention of efficient blue light-emitting diodes which has enabled bright and energy-saving white light sources"	[115]
Hiroshi Amano 20141211.jpg	Hiroshi Amano	 Japan
Shiju.jpg	Shuji Nakamura	 Japan
 United States
2015	Takaaki Kajita 5171-2015.jpg	Takaaki Kajita	 Japan	"for the discovery of neutrino oscillations, which shows that neutrinos have mass"	[116]
Arthur B. McDonald 5193-2015.jpg	Arthur B. McDonald	 Canada
2016	DavidThouless 1995 UW.jpg	David J. Thouless	 United Kingdom	"for theoretical discoveries of topological phase transitions and topological phases of matter"	[117]
Duncan Haldane.jpg	F. Duncan M. Haldane	 United Kingdom
Jkosterl.jpg	John M. Kosterlitz	 United Kingdom
2017	Rainer Weiss - December 2006.jpg	Rainer Weiss	 Germany
 United States	"for decisive contributions to the LIGO detector and the observation of gravitational waves"	[118]
Kip Thorne at Caltech.jpg	Kip Thorne	 United States
05-0367-92D.hr.jpg	Barry Barish	 United States
2018		Arthur Ashkin	 United States	"for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics", in particular "for the optical tweezers and their application to biological systems"	[119]
Gérard Mourou (cropped).jpg	Gérard Mourou	 France	"for groundbreaking inventions in the field of laser physics", in particular "for their method of generating high-intensity, ultra-short optical pulses"
Donna Strickland, OSA Holiday Party 2012.jpg	Donna Strickland

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#713025

On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
> 
> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
> 
> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
> 
> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.

An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have 
calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the level of 
the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that 
you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#713077

On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>
>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>
>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>
>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
> 
> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the level of
> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that
> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
> 

got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?

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#713084

On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>
>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>
>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>
>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>
>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the level of
>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that
>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
> 
> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?

I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy 
deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and 
compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the difference 
turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a measurable 
change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#713102

On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>
>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>
>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>
>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the level of
>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that
>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>
>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
> 
> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the difference
> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a measurable
> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
> 

making stuff up.

what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?


http://www-das.uwyo.edu/~geerts/cwx/notes/chap02/sunspots.html

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#713120

On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>
>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>
>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>
>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the level of
>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that
>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>
>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>
>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the difference
>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a measurable
>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
> 
> making stuff up.
> 
> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?

The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began several 
years before.  There were also some very warm years during that period. 
The level of solar irradiance is not known with certainty but 10Be and 
14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, indicate decreased solar 
activity during that time.

Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:

https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home

He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend but 
recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.

Sad, innit?

And very unfair.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#713121

On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>
>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>> level of
>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south that
>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>
>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>
>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the difference
>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a measurable
>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
>>
>> making stuff up.
>>
>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
> 
> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began several 
> years before.  There were also some very warm years during that period. 
> The level of solar irradiance is not known with certainty but 10Be and 
> 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, indicate decreased solar 
> activity during that time.
> 
> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
> much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
> 
> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
> 
> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend but 
> recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
> 
> Sad, innit?
> 
> And very unfair.
> 
it was great for 2 way radio

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#713126

On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>> level of
>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>
>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>
>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the difference
>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>> measurable
>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
>>>
>>> making stuff up.
>>>
>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>
>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with certainty 
>> but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, indicate 
>> decreased solar activity during that time.
>>
>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
>> much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>
>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>
>> Sad, innit?
>>
>> And very unfair.
>>
> it was great for 2 way radio

I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to the 
dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all Irish 
music with no talking.

So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#713127

On 2018-11-17 3:19 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us 
>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon 
>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough south 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the 
>>>>> difference
>>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>>> measurable
>>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
>>>>
>>>> making stuff up.
>>>>
>>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>>
>>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with 
>>> certainty but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, 
>>> indicate decreased solar activity during that time.
>>>
>>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
>>> much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>>
>>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>>
>>> Sad, innit?
>>>
>>> And very unfair.
>>>
>> it was great for 2 way radio
> 
> I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
> bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to the 
> dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all Irish 
> music with no talking.
> 
> So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?
> 
i'm talking about solar flares in the 80's

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#713136

On 11/17/2018 5:21 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 3:19 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us 
>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar 
>>>>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon 
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough 
>>>>>>>> south that
>>>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the 
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>>>> measurable
>>>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
>>>>>
>>>>> making stuff up.
>>>>>
>>>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>>>
>>>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>>>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>>>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with 
>>>> certainty but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, 
>>>> indicate decreased solar activity during that time.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>>>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
>>>> much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>>>
>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>>>
>>>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>>>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>>>
>>>> Sad, innit?
>>>>
>>>> And very unfair.
>>>>
>>> it was great for 2 way radio
>>
>> I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
>> bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to the 
>> dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all Irish 
>> music with no talking.
>>
>> So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?
>>
> i'm talking about solar flares in the 80's

Oh.  I thought you were talking today.  I was working all over the US on 
6 meters with a 5 watt Clegg 99er and a 3 element beam I hacked together 
with some old copper pipe during the summer of '66.  I think it was 
mostly F2 skip.  One time it would be Pennsylvania, another time it 
would be Texas - jumped all over the place.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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#713141

On 2018-11-17 3:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 5:21 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-11-17 3:19 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us 
>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar 
>>>>>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder 
>>>>>>>>>> Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real 
>>>>>>>>>> scientist
>>>>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based 
>>>>>>>>>> upon real
>>>>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough 
>>>>>>>>> south that
>>>>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the 
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>>>>> measurable
>>>>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time 
>>>>>>> period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> making stuff up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>>>>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>>>>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with 
>>>>> certainty but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, 
>>>>> indicate decreased solar activity during that time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>>>>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very 
>>>>> very much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>>>>
>>>>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>>>>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad, innit?
>>>>>
>>>>> And very unfair.
>>>>>
>>>> it was great for 2 way radio
>>>
>>> I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
>>> bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to 
>>> the dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all 
>>> Irish music with no talking.
>>>
>>> So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?
>>>
>> i'm talking about solar flares in the 80's
> 
> Oh.  I thought you were talking today.  I was working all over the US on 
> 6 meters with a 5 watt Clegg 99er and a 3 element beam I hacked together 
> with some old copper pipe during the summer of '66.  I think it was 
> mostly F2 skip.  One time it would be Pennsylvania, another time it 
> would be Texas - jumped all over the place.
> 
it changes with the ceiling

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#713035

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by 
Checkmate!  In article <mrnuud1d0hg852qer6qvdfmrc0nlijv6vm@4ax.com>, 
greghall@yacht_maester.fake says...


<)--->
<)--->I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
<)--->if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
<)--->and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches 
<)--->an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
<)--->worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
<)--->caused the recent Mini Ice Age. 
<)--->
<)--->More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
<)--->of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
<)--->of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
<)--->means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
<)--->
<)--->How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
<)--->warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
<)--->as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
<)--->data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum. 

Who are you talking to?

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#713088

On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:32:32 -0500, "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq."
<greghall@yacht_maester.fake> wrote:

>
>
>I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>if she were then she would be qualified to share with us information
>and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches 
>an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>caused the recent Mini Ice Age. 
>
>More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar surface
>means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>
>How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon real
>data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum. 

He, it's a he. 

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