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Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist...

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On 2018-11-17 3:55 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
> On 11/17/2018 5:21 PM, % wrote:
>> On 2018-11-17 3:19 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>> On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us 
>>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar 
>>>>>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder 
>>>>>>>>>> Earth.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real 
>>>>>>>>>> scientist
>>>>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based 
>>>>>>>>>> upon real
>>>>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already 
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough 
>>>>>>>>> south that
>>>>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the 
>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>>>>> measurable
>>>>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time 
>>>>>>> period.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> making stuff up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>>>>
>>>>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>>>>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>>>>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with 
>>>>> certainty but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, 
>>>>> indicate decreased solar activity during that time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>>>>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very 
>>>>> very much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>>>>
>>>>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>>>>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sad, innit?
>>>>>
>>>>> And very unfair.
>>>>>
>>>> it was great for 2 way radio
>>>
>>> I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
>>> bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to 
>>> the dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all 
>>> Irish music with no talking.
>>>
>>> So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?
>>>
>> i'm talking about solar flares in the 80's
> 
> Oh.  I thought you were talking today.  I was working all over the US on 
> 6 meters with a 5 watt Clegg 99er and a 3 element beam I hacked together 
> with some old copper pipe during the summer of '66.  I think it was 
> mostly F2 skip.  One time it would be Pennsylvania, another time it 
> would be Texas - jumped all over the place.
> 
it changes with the ceiling

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Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-16 19:32 -0500
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 17:41 -0700
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:25 -0800
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Ms Kitty" <MsKitty@meow.mix> - 2018-11-16 21:54 -0600
        Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 18:50 -0500
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:54 -0700
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 18:59 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 19:14 -0500
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 19:19 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 19:30 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 19:33 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:45 -0700
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 20:28 -0800
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 20:30 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-18 08:40 -0500
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 10:51 -0800
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-18 11:20 -0500
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-16 21:41 -0500
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 10:53 -0600
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 12:29 -0500
        Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 14:05 -0600
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 16:57 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 14:58 -0700
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:19 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 15:21 -0700
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:55 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:09 -0700
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:24 -0800
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 11:49 -0600

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