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Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist...

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On 11/17/2018 5:21 PM, % wrote:
> On 2018-11-17 3:19 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>> On 11/17/2018 4:58 PM, % wrote:
>>> On 2018-11-17 2:57 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>> On 11/17/2018 3:05 PM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:29 AM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/17/2018 11:53 AM, Sergio wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 8:41 PM, mixed nuts wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/2018 7:32 PM, Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I wish kensi were a real astrophysicist. This is my wish because
>>>>>>>>> if she were then she would be qualified to share with us 
>>>>>>>>> information
>>>>>>>>> and data about the quiescent state of Old Sol as it approaches
>>>>>>>>> an 11-year low in solar activity and how this could be as bad or
>>>>>>>>> worse than the solar minimum called the Maunder Minimum which
>>>>>>>>> caused the recent Mini Ice Age.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More and more scientific articles are coming out as to the depth
>>>>>>>>> of this current minimum and it appears that it's among the lowest
>>>>>>>>> of lows in recorded history. No sun spots and a quiet solar 
>>>>>>>>> surface
>>>>>>>>> means way less insolation on the Earth which means a colder Earth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How much colder seems to be the question. Rather than the global
>>>>>>>>> warming lie, it would REALLY be good to hear from a real scientist
>>>>>>>>> as to the likely extent of the upcoming mini ice age based upon 
>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>> data as to the breadth and depth of this solar minimum.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> An ass toot smart genius polymath like yourself should already have
>>>>>>>> calculated that a total solar irradiance decrease of 0.25% (the 
>>>>>>>> level of
>>>>>>>> the Maunder minimum) would not bring polar bears far enough 
>>>>>>>> south that
>>>>>>>> you would need super strong lids on your trash cans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> got URL ?    or are you just making stuff up ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I read some science papers and estimated the net change in energy
>>>>>> deposition integrated over a half sphere, accounting for albedo, and
>>>>>> compared that to other stuff we know about heat flux and the 
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>> turns out to be a very small number - barely enough to make a 
>>>>>> measurable
>>>>>> change in earth surface temperature even over a 100 year time period.
>>>>>
>>>>> making stuff up.
>>>>>
>>>>> what happens to an 11 year cycle when you average it over 100 years ?
>>>>
>>>> The Maunder Minimum lasted 70 years.  The "Little Ice Age" began 
>>>> several years before.  There were also some very warm years during 
>>>> that period. The level of solar irradiance is not known with 
>>>> certainty but 10Be and 14C records, and geomagnetic storm records, 
>>>> indicate decreased solar activity during that time.
>>>>
>>>> Additionally, fossil pollen is very good proxy for temperature and 
>>>> hydrologic conditions.  If you love U. Wyoming researchers very very 
>>>> much, look at Bryan Shuman's work:
>>>>
>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/shumanlab/Home
>>>>
>>>> He figured out that the earth has been in an extended cooling trend 
>>>> but recent anthropogenic carbon inputs have reversed that.
>>>>
>>>> Sad, innit?
>>>>
>>>> And very unfair.
>>>>
>>> it was great for 2 way radio
>>
>> I didn't even turn the radio on today.  The clock radio is on in the 
>> bedroom but it's not loud enough to hear anywhere else.  I went to the 
>> dump and the farm store with the car radio on, but it was all Irish 
>> music with no talking.
>>
>> So, was there anything going on that got you really excited?
>>
> i'm talking about solar flares in the 80's

Oh.  I thought you were talking today.  I was working all over the US on 
6 meters with a 5 watt Clegg 99er and a 3 element beam I hacked together 
with some old copper pipe during the summer of '66.  I think it was 
mostly F2 skip.  One time it would be Pennsylvania, another time it 
would be Texas - jumped all over the place.

-- 
Grizzly H.

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Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-16 19:32 -0500
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 17:41 -0700
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:25 -0800
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Ms Kitty" <MsKitty@meow.mix> - 2018-11-16 21:54 -0600
        Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 18:50 -0500
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:54 -0700
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 18:59 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 19:14 -0500
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 19:19 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-17 19:30 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 19:33 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 17:45 -0700
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 20:28 -0800
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... turkey <turkey@invalid.none> - 2018-11-17 20:30 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-18 08:40 -0500
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-18 10:51 -0800
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-11-18 11:20 -0500
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-16 21:41 -0500
    Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 10:53 -0600
      Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 12:29 -0500
        Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-11-17 14:05 -0600
          Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 16:57 -0500
            Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 14:58 -0700
              Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:19 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 15:21 -0700
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2018-11-17 17:55 -0500
                Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... % <persent@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 16:09 -0700
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Checkmate <ricksabain1@gmail.com> - 2018-11-16 22:24 -0800
  Re: Would that kensi were a REAL astrophysicist... Bob Robertson <bobrobertsontsy66@gmail.com> - 2018-11-17 11:49 -0600

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