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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. |
| Date | 2015-11-18 16:37 +0000 |
| Organization | O.W.L. |
| Message-ID | <fhej0q.fap@rooftop.invalid> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <D27147F7.6479F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid> <D2715BB1.647B5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhe0a.3ra@rooftop.invalid> <D271EC27.6481F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/17/15, 11:28 PM, in article fhe0a.3ra@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/17/15, 9:57 PM, in article fhuea93.a3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I can read the quote. The question is what is YOUR view? Seems you disagree
>>>>> that the tilde means "the hard drive only", not only as an absolute but as
>>>>> any form of meaningful generalization, statement of a common default, or
>>>>> anything else that would make sense for systems in general (and if so I
>>>>> agree with you!)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tilde expansion means exactly what the shell's manpage says it means.
>>>> I don't know what else to tell you.
>>>
>>> Well, a direct answer would be good but you are clearly working hard to
>>> avoid that. It is a game you are playing. No big deal.
>>>
>>
>> No, you are confused. The expansion (if done) is just an expansion to a
>> string. Where that string actually points is not defined. Asking "where
>> it is" is meaningless in a context restricted to the tilde itself and
>> its expansion.
>>
>>> Comes down to you have made it clear you do not think it means "the hard
>>> drive only" nor do you think that is a common default or the like. Fine.
>>>
>>>> Whatever physical or virtual device (or portion thereof) that expansion
>>>> actually points to is outside the scope of the definition. It very well may
>>>> mean "the hard drive only" if for instance /home/snit occupies the entirety
>>>> of
>>>> a hard drive.
>>>
>>> But that is not the norm or the default or anything you have likely ever
>>> encountered.
>>>
>>
>> What do you mean by "the default"?
>>
>>
>>>> What is the point of this question anyway, given that it is a
>>>> question without a real answer?
>>>
>>> The answer is easy: no, it does not mean that and anyone who said so, esp.
>>> in a general sense, would be absurdly wrong and, if they claim to be at all
>>> technically competent, at best it would show a big lacking in their
>>> knowledge if not proof of them being outright liars. :)
>>>
>>
>> Saying "it does not mean that" is just as wrong as saying "it does mean that."
>> The tilde expansion does not address "where it is" at all. And it is not
>> always expanded anyway:
>>
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ ls
>> ~root
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > ~root/kah
>> bash: /root/kah: Permission denied
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ echo "blah" > '~root'/kah
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ tree
>> .
>>
>> ????????? ~root
>> ????????? kah
>>
>> 1 directory, 1 file
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$ cat '~root'/kah
>> blah
>> anon@lowtide:~/tilde$
>
> When I read a tech support article such as this one:
>
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
> -----
> Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
> -----
>
> I know EXACTLY which folder they mean (because I know in that context the
> tilde means the user folder). No doubt at all.
>
That's not what you where asking. You were *not* asking what string the
tilde expanded to; you were asking about where it was located *physically*.
("the hard drive only" or whatever it was you said).
> Would you know what folder to go to? If so, how?
>
It is explained in the manpage.
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