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Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015.

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015.
Date 2015-11-19 01:06 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <fhgbvnd803rap.e@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <fhenfaua30.ae@rooftop.invalid> <D2724759.64939%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhem.zoa91afa@rooftop.invalid> <564d114b$0$8224$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com> <D27261DE.6498E%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/15, 5:01 PM, in article
> 564d114b$0$8224$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 23:37:17 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/18/15, 2:26 PM, in article fhenfaua30.ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/18/15, 2:10 PM, in article nvjug83.ar3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The one Apple uses here:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>>     Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>>>>>>>>     Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>>>>>>>     -----
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In other words: the user's home folder.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If the tilde refers to "the user's home folder", can you explain the
>>>>>>> following without referring to the manpage?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~       # OK, that's my home directory
>>>>>>> /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anon   # why is this not
>>>>>>> /home/anonanon? /home/anon anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~anona  # why is
>>>>>>> this not /home/anonanona? ~anona anon@lowtide:~$ echo ~root   # why
>>>>>>> is this not /home/anonroot? /root anon@lowtide:~$
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You changed your defaults. So?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> What are you talking about?  I didn't change anything.  Read the
>>>>> manpage for bash like I told you.
>>>>> 
>>>> Comes down to when I see what Apple shows in their tech doc:
>>>> 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>>>     -----
>>>>     Find device backups in ~/Library/Applicatio
>>>>     Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>>>     -----
>>>> 
>>>> Unlike you, without using any manpage or anything else I know they mean
>>>> a folder in the user's home folder.
>>>> 
>>>> Now you can also name files with a tilde in them. Looks like you may
>>>> have done that. Whatever. Not really interested right now in edge cases
>>>> and puzzles... though I admit at times those can be fun. :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> You are an idiot.  The explanation for what is happening is right there
>>> in the bash manpage, under the "Tilde Expansion" heading.  I posted this
>>> already about six or eight levels above in this thread, but even with it
>>> staring you right in the face you resist understanding.
>>> Congratulations. It takes a championship caliber narcissistic stupidity
>>> to cling to a mistaken position with such intensity.
>> 
>> ffs, just quote the thing.
>> 
>> EXPANSION
>> [...]
>>    Tilde Expansion
>>        If a word begins with an unquoted tilde character (`~'),
>>        all of the characters preceding the first unquoted slash
>>        (or  all  characters, if there is no unquoted slash) are
>>        considered a tilde-prefix.  If none of the characters in
>>        the  tilde-prefix  are  quoted,  the  characters  in the
>>        tilde-prefix following the tilde are treated as a possi?
>>        ble  login name.  If this login name is the null string,
>>        the tilde is replaced with the value of the shell param?
>>        eter  HOME.  If HOME is unset, the home directory of the
>>        user executing the shell is substituted instead.  Other?
>>        wise,  the tilde-prefix is replaced with the home direc?
>>        tory associated with the specified login name.
>> 
>>        If the tilde-prefix is a `~+', the value  of  the  shell
>>        variable  PWD  replaces the tilde-prefix.  If the tilde-
>>        prefix is a `~-', the value of the shell  variable  OLD?
>>        PWD,  if  it  is set, is substituted.  If the characters
>>        following the tilde in the  tilde-prefix  consist  of  a
>>        number  N,  optionally  prefixed  by a `+' or a `-', the
>>        tilde-prefix is replaced with the corresponding  element
>>        from  the  directory  stack, as it would be displayed by
>>        the dirs builtin invoked with  the  tilde-prefix  as  an
>>        argument.   If the characters following the tilde in the
>>        tilde-prefix consist of a number without a  leading  `+'
>>        or `-', `+' is assumed.
>> 
>>        If  the  login  name  is invalid, or the tilde expansion
>>        fails, the word is unchanged.
>> 
>>        Each variable assignment is checked for unquoted  tilde-
>>        prefixes  immediately  following a : or the first =.  In
>>        these cases, tilde expansion is also performed.   Conse?
>>        quently,  one  may  use filenames with tildes in assign?
>>        ments to PATH,  MAILPATH,  and  CDPATH,  and  the  shell
>>        assigns the expanded value.
>> 
> 
> But, seriously, without even looking at that I am sure

That's your problem right there.  Look at it, you moron.

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