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Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015.

From owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015.
Date 2015-11-18 18:29 +0000
Organization O.W.L.
Message-ID <fhejao03.a3@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <D271EC27.6481F%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhej0q.fap@rooftop.invalid> <D27203BB.64875%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fhje80q.qpr@rooftop.invalid> <D2720F11.648AA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 11/18/15, 11:07 AM, in article fhje80q.qpr@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/18/15, 9:37 AM, in article fhej0q.fap@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> When I read a tech support article such as this one:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>>>>>     -----
>>>>>     Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>>>>>     -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know EXACTLY which folder they mean (because I know in that context the
>>>>> tilde means the user folder). No doubt at all.
>>>> 
>>>> That's not what you where asking.  You were *not* asking what string the
>>>> tilde expanded to; you were asking about where it was located *physically*.
>>>> ("the hard drive only" or whatever it was you said).
>>> 
>>> 1) Do you think the tilde (~) in a path means "the hard drive only"?
>>> 
>>> I did not ask where the tilde was located on the hard drive but what you
>>> think it means! And clearly you are unsure.
>> 
>> You asked if it means "the hard drive only."  That is a physical location.
> 
> I asked nothing about the physical location of the drive. Could be in the
> computer. Could be external. Could be networked. Completely irrelevant.
> 

That's what I told you when you asked.  Completely irrelevant.


>>> Me: on seeing that line in a support doc I would know to go to my user
>>> folder, my Library folder, my Application Support folder, etc.
>>> 
>>> Not even a second of thought needed. Well, I would likely just go directly
>>> there and not traverse the path, but you (maybe) get the idea. A
>>> knowledgeable computer use would. :)
>> 
>> You would be well-advised to give it a second thought.
> 
> Nope. On seeing this: <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>     -----
>     Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>     -----
> 
> I would know how to get there... and not need a second thought. Thank you
> for admitting you would. No shame in not being sure of yourself.
> 
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ cat "~/afile"
>> data
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ echo "boom" > ~/afile
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ cat "~/afile"
>> data
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ cat ~/afile
>> boom
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ ls -l
>> total 4
>> drwxr-xr-x 2 anon anon 4096 Nov 18 12:59 ~
>> anon@lowtide:~/usenet$
>> 
>> 

So you just ignored that warning.

>>>>> Would you know what folder to go to? If so, how?
>>>> 
>>>> It is explained in the manpage.
>>> 
>>> You would need to refer to a manpage! LOL!
>> 
>> You asked "how" I would know.  That's how.
> 
> Right... where I would know from my own knowledge and experience. I would
> not need to go to a manpage to figure out what Apple is talking about here:
> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204215>
>     -----
>     Find device backups in ~/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup/
>     -----
> 
> As you get more experience with computers maybe you would just know, too,
> without having to look it up in a man page (or even have one memorized or
> whatever).
> 

Here's another warning, showing why you might want to read manpages
before assuming you know everything:
 
anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ cd "/usr/bin"
anon@lowtide:/usr/bin$ cd ~/usenet
anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ cd "/usr/bin"
anon@lowtide:/usr/bin$ cd "~/usenet"
bash: cd: ~/usenet: No such file or directory
anon@lowtide:/usr/bin$

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Statistics on 15.11.2015. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-15 03:27 +0100
  Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:22 -0800
    Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 13:31 -0500
      Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-17 10:51 -0800
        Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-17 18:37 -0500
          Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:00 -0700
            Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 00:29 +0000
              Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 17:40 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 01:22 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 18:35 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 02:54 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 19:59 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:27 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 20:35 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 03:52 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-17 21:09 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 04:57 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 08:49 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 16:37 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 10:30 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 18:07 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 11:18 -0700
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 21:26 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 15:18 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-18 23:37 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-18 16:06 -0800
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-18 17:13 -0700
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-19 00:01 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:06 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 04:07 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 23:53 +0000
                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-19 16:04 -0800
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-20 00:28 +0000
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                Re: Statistics on 15.11.2015. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-19 01:04 +0000
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