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Re: Return of the Applets?

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On 4/5/2015 5:30 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/5/2015 5:17 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 4/5/2015 5:08 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/5/2015 4:54 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2015 4:41 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>>> On 4/5/2015 3:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/5/2015 1:31 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>>>>> You're mixing apples and oranges.  Java is NOT JavaScript - or vice
>>>>>>>> versa.  They are two different languages with two different
>>>>>>>> purposes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      That must be some kind of reflex some people can't control!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      But no one has claimed that Java was JavaScript. Relax.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but you are comparing them - which is like comparing apples and
>>>>>> oranges.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>
>>>>> They were compared as languages for running code in browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> A perfectly valid comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But Java does not "run in the browser".  It runs in an extension,
>>>> loaded
>>>> by the browser.
>>>>
>>>> As opposed to JavaScript - which runs natively in most browsers.
>>>>
>>>> A very important distinction.
>>>
>>> A relevant distinction in some contexts.
>>>
>>> But not relevant in this context.
>>>
>>> The discussion was about access to screen and the ability to support
>>> RWS.
>>>
>>
>> 100% relevant in this conversation - but since it contradicts your
>> argument, you have to claim it's unimportant.
> 
> So how does the the fact that JavaScript comes from the browser vendor
> while the Java plugin comes from Oracle impact the Stefan's conclusion
> about support for RWD and what it means for Java?
> 
>>>>> Just like comparing apples and oranges is a perfectly valid comparsion
>>>>> when discussing what fruits you think taste the best.
>>>>>
>>>>> None of which explains why you brought the Java != JavaScript
>>>>> discussion
>>>>> into the picture.
>>>>
>>>> It does when you're comparing two entirely different languages with
>>>> different goals and different implementations.
>>>
>>> So if someone is comparing C++ and objective-C in a specific context
>>> then you also want to point out that it is two different languages??
>>>
>>> I would not.
>>>
>>> Neither for those two or for Java and JavaScript.
>>
>> Yes they are.
> 
> Did you read the question?
>

Yes, I read the question.  Did YOU?  Or, more importantly - are you
capable of UNDERSTANDING the claims?  It doesn't look like it.

>>>>>>>> The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
>>>>>>>> "a"s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      But since you insist, let me give you some factual information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>          - Both are trademarks of Oracle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So?
>>>>>
>>>>> It proves that your claim:
>>>>>
>>>>> #The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
>>>>> "a"s.
>>>>>
>>>>> is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> So I guess you're just being a pedantic troll than, Arne.
>>>
>>> Since when has it been considered trolling to point out that
>>> claims made are flat out wrong??
>>
>> When you split hairs to contradict a bigger point.  It's a mark of a
>> pedantic troll.
> 
> You started a completely irrelevant sub-thread. And it is splitting
> hairs to point out that besides irrelevant then it was also wrong.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Arne
> 

Nope, it was completely relevant to the subject at hand.  But you don't
understand that.

But then another indicator of a pedantic troll is selectively snipping
information which contradicts what her has to say.  Like you did (again)
here.

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Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 09:46 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-05 13:12 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 15:14 -0400
    Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 16:41 -0400
      Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 16:54 -0400
        Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:08 -0400
          Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 17:17 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:30 -0400
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 17:42 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:52 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 18:17 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2015-04-06 11:26 +0200
    Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 13:23 -0500
      Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 15:09 -0400
        Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 17:33 -0500
          Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 17:44 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 19:10 -0500
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 20:03 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 21:36 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 09:11 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-06 23:25 +0000
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 19:59 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 13:29 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 10:45 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 15:51 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 13:16 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 20:22 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:03 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreskog.localdomain> - 2015-04-07 11:34 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 13:18 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreskog.localdomain> - 2015-04-07 12:40 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:06 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 20:28 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:11 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 23:00 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 19:25 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 13:09 -0500

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