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Re: Return of the Applets?

From Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Return of the Applets?
Date 2015-04-05 17:17 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 4/5/2015 5:08 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 4/5/2015 4:54 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> On 4/5/2015 4:41 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 4/5/2015 3:14 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>> On 4/5/2015 1:31 PM, Stefan Ram wrote:
>>>>> Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> writes:
>>>>>> You're mixing apples and oranges.  Java is NOT JavaScript - or vice
>>>>>> versa.  They are two different languages with two different purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>>     That must be some kind of reflex some people can't control!
>>>>>
>>>>>     But no one has claimed that Java was JavaScript. Relax.
>>>>
>>>> No, but you are comparing them - which is like comparing apples and
>>>> oranges.
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> They were compared as languages for running code in browser.
>>>
>>> A perfectly valid comparison.
>>>
>>
>> But Java does not "run in the browser".  It runs in an extension, loaded
>> by the browser.
>>
>> As opposed to JavaScript - which runs natively in most browsers.
>>
>> A very important distinction.
> 
> A relevant distinction in some contexts.
> 
> But not relevant in this context.
> 
> The discussion was about access to screen and the ability to support RWS.
>

100% relevant in this conversation - but since it contradicts your
argument, you have to claim it's unimportant.

> 
>>> Just like comparing apples and oranges is a perfectly valid comparsion
>>> when discussing what fruits you think taste the best.
>>>
>>> None of which explains why you brought the Java != JavaScript discussion
>>> into the picture.
>>
>> It does when you're comparing two entirely different languages with
>> different goals and different implementations.
> 
> So if someone is comparing C++ and objective-C in a specific context
> then you also want to point out that it is two different languages??
> 
> I would not.
> 
> Neither for those two or for Java and JavaScript.
> 

Yes they are.  However, they are much closer to each other than Java and
JavaScript are.  At least the two have the same goals, while Java and
JavaScript do not.

>>>>>> The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
>>>>>> "a"s.
>>>>>
>>>>>     But since you insist, let me give you some factual information.
>>>>>
>>>>>         - Both are trademarks of Oracle.
>>>>
>>>> So?
>>>
>>> It proves that your claim:
>>>
>>> #The ONLY thing they have in common are the letters "J", "v" and two
>>> "a"s.
>>>
>>> is wrong.
>>
>> So I guess you're just being a pedantic troll than, Arne.
> 
> Since when has it been considered trolling to point out that
> claims made are flat out wrong??
> 
> Arne
> 

When you split hairs to contradict a bigger point.  It's a mark of a
pedantic troll.

But as I said (and you snipped), you've done this before in at least one
other newsgroup.  No surprises here.

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Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 09:46 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Jeff Higgins <jeff@invalid.invalid> - 2015-04-05 13:12 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 15:14 -0400
    Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 16:41 -0400
      Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 16:54 -0400
        Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:08 -0400
          Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 17:17 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:30 -0400
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 17:42 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2015-04-05 17:52 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-05 18:17 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Luuk <luuk@invalid.lan> - 2015-04-06 11:26 +0200
    Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 13:23 -0500
      Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 15:09 -0400
        Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 17:33 -0500
          Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 17:44 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 19:10 -0500
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 20:03 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 21:36 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 09:11 -0400
            Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-06 23:25 +0000
              Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-06 19:59 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 13:29 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 10:45 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 15:51 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 13:16 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 20:22 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:03 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreskog.localdomain> - 2015-04-07 11:34 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 13:18 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Leif Roar Moldskred <leifm@huldreskog.localdomain> - 2015-04-07 12:40 -0500
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:06 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 20:28 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 17:11 -0400
                Re: Return of the Applets? Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2015-04-07 23:00 +0000
                Re: Return of the Applets? Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2015-04-07 19:25 -0400
  Re: Return of the Applets? Joshua Cranmer 🐧 <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2015-04-06 13:09 -0500

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