Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]

Groups > alt.comp.os.windows-11 > #18809 > unrolled thread

Bluetooth connections

Back to article view | Back to alt.comp.os.windows-11

Contents

  Bluetooth connections knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 12:36 -0400
    Re: Bluetooth connections Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-29 17:43 +0000
      Re: Bluetooth connections knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 17:28 -0400
        Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-29 19:11 -0400
          Re: Bluetooth connections knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-04-29 20:56 -0400
            Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:40 -0400
      Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-04-30 20:22 +1000
        Re: Bluetooth connections Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-04-30 15:33 +0100
          Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 00:53 +1000
            Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:53 -0400
              Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-02 21:20 +1000
                Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-02 16:41 -0400
                  Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 19:29 +1000
        Re: Bluetooth connections Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-04-30 15:46 +0000
          Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-01 20:52 +1000
            Re: Bluetooth connections Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-01 12:40 +0000
              Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-02 19:21 +1000
                Re: Bluetooth connections Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:37 +0000
              Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-02 19:26 +1000
                Re: Bluetooth connections Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-05-02 10:37 +0000
                  Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 19:54 +1000
          Re: Bluetooth connections Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2025-05-03 19:48 +1000
            Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-05-03 15:40 -0400
        Re: Bluetooth connections Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-04-30 12:15 -0400

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

#18809 — Bluetooth connections

Running Windows 11 24H2.  Trying to send files to my cellphone.

I can send files to a Windows 10 computer from this computer.

I am in a Local account on the Windows 11 computer

When I try to send files to my cellphone using the Send to Function on 
the right click drop down menu,  Bluetooth does not show my phone as a 
connected device.  There for I can not send files to my phone.

Same computer same phone.  I can send successfully files by Bluetooth to 
the computer.

Any guess where the MS boy hid the security setting to not show the 
cellphone in the Bluetooth Window 11 windows

[toc] | [next] | [standalone]

#18811

knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Running Windows 11 24H2.  Trying to send files to my cellphone.
> 
> I can send files to a Windows 10 computer from this computer.
> 
> I am in a Local account on the Windows 11 computer
> 
> When I try to send files to my cellphone using the Send to Function on 
> the right click drop down menu,  Bluetooth does not show my phone as a 
> connected device.  There for I can not send files to my phone.
> 
> Same computer same phone.  I can send successfully files by Bluetooth to 
> the computer.
> 
> Any guess where the MS boy hid the security setting to not show the 
> cellphone in the Bluetooth Window 11 windows

  In Settings -> Bluetooth & devices, did you try the 'View more
devices' pull down?

  For example on my Windows 11 laptop, the 'Bluetooth & devices' page
only shows the devices to which I have connected at some time, but the
'View more devices' pull down (goes to the 'Devices' page), also shows
Bluetooth devices which are visible but not paired (and hence not
connected).

  You could also try the 'Add device' function.

  And you are sure the Bluetooth part of your phone is set to be
discoverable/visible. (My Samsung phone is always set that way, but some
devices can be set to be not discoverable/visible.)

  BTW, instead of 'Send to' -> 'Bluetooth device', I use 'Send with
Quick Share' (other item on the right-click menu). This uses/requires
the Google/Samsung 'Quick Share' (used to be called 'Nearby Share')
program/app on both (Windows and Android) sides, assuming your
'cellphone' is actually a smartphone and an Android one.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18816

On 04/29/2025 1:43 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Running Windows 11 24H2.  Trying to send files to my cellphone.
>>
>> I can send files to a Windows 10 computer from this computer.
>>
>> I am in a Local account on the Windows 11 computer
>>
>> When I try to send files to my cellphone using the Send to Function on
>> the right click drop down menu,  Bluetooth does not show my phone as a
>> connected device.  There for I can not send files to my phone.
>>
>> Same computer same phone.  I can send successfully files by Bluetooth to
>> the computer.
>>
>> Any guess where the MS boy hid the security setting to not show the
>> cellphone in the Bluetooth Window 11 windows
> 
>    In Settings -> Bluetooth & devices, did you try the 'View more
> devices' pull down?
> 
>    For example on my Windows 11 laptop, the 'Bluetooth & devices' page
> only shows the devices to which I have connected at some time, but the
> 'View more devices' pull down (goes to the 'Devices' page), also shows
> Bluetooth devices which are visible but not paired (and hence not
> connected).
> 
>    You could also try the 'Add device' function.
> 
>    And you are sure the Bluetooth part of your phone is set to be
> discoverable/visible. (My Samsung phone is always set that way, but some
> devices can be set to be not discoverable/visible.)
> 
>    BTW, instead of 'Send to' -> 'Bluetooth device', I use 'Send with
> Quick Share' (other item on the right-click menu). This uses/requires
> the Google/Samsung 'Quick Share' (used to be called 'Nearby Share')
> program/app on both (Windows and Android) sides, assuming your
> 'cellphone' is actually a smartphone and an Android one.


Even though I can send files to the computer from the phone, the phone 
does not appear on the 'Add device' page

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18818

On Tue, 4/29/2025 5:28 PM, knuttle wrote:

> 
> 
> Even though I can send files to the computer from the phone, the phone does not appear on the 'Add device' page

This is a setting at the phone end.

The phone must have the Bluetooth turned on, in
the "Discoverable Mode", for a pairing attempt
to be made. "Send To" requires successful pairing,
with the same six digit code showing on both
screens, in order for the pairing to be set up.

But no device wants to pair, unless it is put
in "Discoverable". It's a kind of permission,
assigned to the usage of Bluetooth. My desktop
computer is "Discoverable".

It is like the usage of an airplane mode - if
a device has the Radio portion turned off because
the device is on an airplane, that's a permission
to use a radio frequency signal. Well, the "discoverable"
mode assumes Non-Airplane mode (RF on) plus
the Discoverable property means the phone is actively
listing to the radio channel for pairing requests.
Or scanning for devices to ask, on a broadcast channel.

   Paul

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18823

On 04/29/2025 7:11 PM, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 4/29/2025 5:28 PM, knuttle wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> Even though I can send files to the computer from the phone, the phone does not appear on the 'Add device' page
> 
> This is a setting at the phone end.
> 
> The phone must have the Bluetooth turned on, in
> the "Discoverable Mode", for a pairing attempt
> to be made. "Send To" requires successful pairing,
> with the same six digit code showing on both
> screens, in order for the pairing to be set up.
> 
> But no device wants to pair, unless it is put
> in "Discoverable". It's a kind of permission,
> assigned to the usage of Bluetooth. My desktop
> computer is "Discoverable".
> 
> It is like the usage of an airplane mode - if
> a device has the Radio portion turned off because
> the device is on an airplane, that's a permission
> to use a radio frequency signal. Well, the "discoverable"
> mode assumes Non-Airplane mode (RF on) plus
> the Discoverable property means the phone is actively
> listing to the radio channel for pairing requests.
> Or scanning for devices to ask, on a broadcast channel.
> 
>     Paul
I routinely to the phone, when you try to connect on this Android phone 
and the Bluetooth is off, the phone ask if you want to turn it on.

So to answer you question Yes the phone is in the discovery mode

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18847

On Tue, 4/29/2025 8:56 PM, knuttle wrote:
> On 04/29/2025 7:11 PM, Paul wrote:
>> On Tue, 4/29/2025 5:28 PM, knuttle wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Even though I can send files to the computer from the phone, the phone does not appear on the 'Add device' page
>>
>> This is a setting at the phone end.
>>
>> The phone must have the Bluetooth turned on, in
>> the "Discoverable Mode", for a pairing attempt
>> to be made. "Send To" requires successful pairing,
>> with the same six digit code showing on both
>> screens, in order for the pairing to be set up.
>>
>> But no device wants to pair, unless it is put
>> in "Discoverable". It's a kind of permission,
>> assigned to the usage of Bluetooth. My desktop
>> computer is "Discoverable".
>>
>> It is like the usage of an airplane mode - if
>> a device has the Radio portion turned off because
>> the device is on an airplane, that's a permission
>> to use a radio frequency signal. Well, the "discoverable"
>> mode assumes Non-Airplane mode (RF on) plus
>> the Discoverable property means the phone is actively
>> listing to the radio channel for pairing requests.
>> Or scanning for devices to ask, on a broadcast channel.
>>
>>     Paul
> I routinely to the phone, when you try to connect on this Android phone and the Bluetooth is off, the phone ask if you want to turn it on.
> 
> So to answer you question Yes the phone is in the discovery mode

Is the phone within line-of-sight of the other Bluetooth device ?

The Bluetooth devices should work in greenfield mode (legacy bluetooth),
so even if one of the BT is a BT5, it still uses the same kind of
setup as a BT4 device would. The frequencies should be the same.

If a device is Discoverable, I believe it responds to some kind
of "broadcast channel". There is a channel, so the devices can
see a hailing call from other devices.

The nodes which are members of the same piconet, have to
use the same frequency hop pattern, to remain in communications.
That is presumably used during pairing, during profile setup/connected
phases.

Your phone then, is not responding to the broadcast from
the other phone. since both devices are peers, they
can be doing discovery at the same time. Which means
one device will be "eating" the hop pattern of the
other device, once pairing is set up. If the phone is
paired to a hands-free device, at the same time as it
does SendTo with the computer, I don't really know what
happens there. Maybe a peer can participate in two
piconets at a time, but I don't know how that can work
without having two receivers and two hop patterns operating
simultaneously.

I put two pictures in the post to Daniel, of what a
SendTo should look like in W11. There is no pairing sequence
with the six digit numbers in this picture set, as the two
W11 computers were paired previously, and at boot time,
they seem to have a paired status still (no attempt having
been made to disconnect or disrupt the pairing).

   [Picture]

    https://i.postimg.cc/K8C5SmMH/Bluetooth-Pairing-Versus-Connected.gif

    https://i.postimg.cc/yd8xLZN4/Windows-Send-To-Bluetooth-Sequence.gif

  Paul

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18829

On 30/04/2025 3:43 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Running Windows 11 24H2.  Trying to send files to my cellphone.
>>
>> I can send files to a Windows 10 computer from this computer.
>>
>> I am in a Local account on the Windows 11 computer
>>
>> When I try to send files to my cellphone using the Send to Function on
>> the right click drop down menu,  Bluetooth does not show my phone as a
>> connected device.  There for I can not send files to my phone.
>>
>> Same computer same phone.  I can send successfully files by Bluetooth to
>> the computer.
>>
>> Any guess where the MS boy hid the security setting to not show the
>> cellphone in the Bluetooth Window 11 windows
> 
>    In Settings -> Bluetooth & devices, did you try the 'View more
> devices' pull down?
> 
>    For example on my Windows 11 laptop, the 'Bluetooth & devices' page
> only shows the devices to which I have connected at some time, but the
> 'View more devices' pull down (goes to the 'Devices' page), also shows
> Bluetooth devices which are visible but not paired (and hence not
> connected).
> 
>    You could also try the 'Add device' function.
> 
>    And you are sure the Bluetooth part of your phone is set to be
> discoverable/visible. (My Samsung phone is always set that way, but some
> devices can be set to be not discoverable/visible.)
> 
>    BTW, instead of 'Send to' -> 'Bluetooth device', I use 'Send with
> Quick Share' (other item on the right-click menu). This uses/requires
> the Google/Samsung 'Quick Share' (used to be called 'Nearby Share')
> program/app on both (Windows and Android) sides, assuming your
> 'cellphone' is actually a smartphone and an Android one.
> 
(Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)

Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone 
showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11 
Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see 
"DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)

How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone 
to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18837

On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

>
>How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone 
>to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??

When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File Explorer,
from where you can browse its file structure and drag files to your
PC, and vice versa.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18839

On 1/05/2025 12:33 am, Peter Johnson wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70
> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> 
>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
> 
> When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File Explorer,
> from where you can browse its file structure and drag files to your
> PC, and vice versa.
> 
O.K., My phone is, supposedly, connected to my Computer via Bluetooth. 
The 'DESKTOP2' shows up on the phone.

On the Computer, in File Explorer, I see the normal stuff, (Windows C:, 
Store'N'Go' USB stick, and Network). Selecting Network yields Mobile 
Devices (Archer_VR1600v) and Network Infrastructure (Archer_VR1600v) 
.... which I think is the Wi-Fi connected Modem (Why twice???)

And that's it. If I turn off the Mobile phones Bluetooth, nothing 
changes on the Win 11 Computer. ;-(

Does this mean I haven't really got Bluetooth set-up on the Computer
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18848

On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 1/05/2025 12:33 am, Peter Johnson wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70
>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>
>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
>>
>> When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File Explorer,
>> from where you can browse its file structure and drag files to your
>> PC, and vice versa.
>>
> O.K., My phone is, supposedly, connected to my Computer via Bluetooth. The 'DESKTOP2' shows up on the phone.
> 
> On the Computer, in File Explorer, I see the normal stuff, (Windows C:, Store'N'Go' USB stick, and Network). Selecting Network yields Mobile Devices (Archer_VR1600v) and Network Infrastructure (Archer_VR1600v) .... which I think is the Wi-Fi connected Modem (Why twice???)
> 
> And that's it. If I turn off the Mobile phones Bluetooth, nothing changes on the Win 11 Computer. ;-(
> 
> Does this mean I haven't really got Bluetooth set-up on the Computer

Use Device Manager, which is a right-click on Start, and the Device
Manager is an item in the list there.

On my Windows 11 Device Manager, the word "Bluetooth" appears as
the third item down. Inside the Bluetooth item, there will be
many items in the list, and one is related to the hardware device.

    Asus USB-BT400        <=== Possibly a Broadcom BT adapter

In the tray area (the caret symbol in the lower right corner, you
will see a Bluetooth icon there. That icon will appear, after the
OS downloads the driver(s) for the Device Manager entries. That
icon in the tray area, is evidence there is a Bluetooth device present.

In the Settings wheel. there is a "Bluetooth and devices" entry.
even if you didn't have Bluetooth, that entry would still be
labeled the same way.

In Bluetooth and Devices : Devices , there is a "discoverable" slider at the top.
The "discoverable" will be entirely missing, if the BT adapter is unplugged for example.
I routinely plug and unplug that thing, when testing stuff, so I've seen the
item appear... and disappear at the top of "Devices" submenu.

   Paul

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18958

On 1/05/2025 2:53 am, Paul wrote:
> On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 1/05/2025 12:33 am, Peter Johnson wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70
>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>>>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
>>>
>>> When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File Explorer,
>>> from where you can browse its file structure and drag files to your
>>> PC, and vice versa.
>>>
>> O.K., My phone is, supposedly, connected to my Computer via Bluetooth. The 'DESKTOP2' shows up on the phone.
>>
>> On the Computer, in File Explorer, I see the normal stuff, (Windows C:, Store'N'Go' USB stick, and Network). Selecting Network yields Mobile Devices (Archer_VR1600v) and Network Infrastructure (Archer_VR1600v) .... which I think is the Wi-Fi connected Modem (Why twice???)
>>
>> And that's it. If I turn off the Mobile phones Bluetooth, nothing changes on the Win 11 Computer. ;-(
>>
>> Does this mean I haven't really got Bluetooth set-up on the Computer
> 
> Use Device Manager, which is a right-click on Start, and the Device
> Manager is an item in the list there.
> 
> On my Windows 11 Device Manager, the word "Bluetooth" appears as
> the third item down. Inside the Bluetooth item, there will be
> many items in the list, and one is related to the hardware device.
> 
>      Asus USB-BT400        <=== Possibly a Broadcom BT adapter

	Aspera Jazz 2
	Aspera Jazz 2 Avrcp Transport
	Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM Protocol TDI)
	Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator
	Microsoft Bluetooth LE Enumerator
	Realtek Wireless Bluetooth Adaptor

> In the tray area (the caret symbol in the lower right corner, you
> will see a Bluetooth icon there.

Yeap, Bluetooth Icon hidden but there.

> That icon will appear, after the
> OS downloads the driver(s) for the Device Manager entries. That
> icon in the tray area, is evidence there is a Bluetooth device present.
> 
> In the Settings wheel. there is a "Bluetooth and devices" entry.
> even if you didn't have Bluetooth, that entry would still be
> labeled the same way.
> 
> In Bluetooth and Devices : Devices , there is a "discoverable" slider at the top.

Showing as 'On'.  shows "Discoverable as 'DESKTOP2'"
Under that there is "Connect a new device to 'DESKTOP2'" and a "Add 
device" button.
If I click the 'Add device' button then select 'Bluetooth', the 
sub-screen shows "Unknown device" and "DESKTOP-FLF6RMQ" .... then, after 
maybe 30 secs, the "Unknown device" disappears, leaving just the DESKTOP 
and offers 'Troubleshoot Bluetooth connections'.

> The "discoverable" will be entirely missing, if the BT adapter is unplugged for example.

Umm! Isn't the 'BT adapter' part of the Motherboard??

> I routinely plug and unplug that thing, when testing stuff, so I've seen the
> item appear... and disappear at the top of "Devices" submenu.
> 
>     Paul
> 
Thanks, Paul and Frank and all you others.
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18994

On Fri, 5/2/2025 7:20 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 1/05/2025 2:53 am, Paul wrote:
>> On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 1/05/2025 12:33 am, Peter Johnson wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70
>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>>>>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
>>>>
>>>> When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File Explorer,
>>>> from where you can browse its file structure and drag files to your
>>>> PC, and vice versa.
>>>>
>>> O.K., My phone is, supposedly, connected to my Computer via Bluetooth. The 'DESKTOP2' shows up on the phone.
>>>
>>> On the Computer, in File Explorer, I see the normal stuff, (Windows C:, Store'N'Go' USB stick, and Network). Selecting Network yields Mobile Devices (Archer_VR1600v) and Network Infrastructure (Archer_VR1600v) .... which I think is the Wi-Fi connected Modem (Why twice???)
>>>
>>> And that's it. If I turn off the Mobile phones Bluetooth, nothing changes on the Win 11 Computer. ;-(
>>>
>>> Does this mean I haven't really got Bluetooth set-up on the Computer
>>
>> Use Device Manager, which is a right-click on Start, and the Device
>> Manager is an item in the list there.
>>
>> On my Windows 11 Device Manager, the word "Bluetooth" appears as
>> the third item down. Inside the Bluetooth item, there will be
>> many items in the list, and one is related to the hardware device.
>>
>>      Asus USB-BT400        <=== Possibly a Broadcom BT adapter
> 
>     Aspera Jazz 2
>     Aspera Jazz 2 Avrcp Transport
>     Bluetooth Device (RFCOMM Protocol TDI)
>     Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator
>     Microsoft Bluetooth LE Enumerator
>     Realtek Wireless Bluetooth Adaptor
> 
>> In the tray area (the caret symbol in the lower right corner, you
>> will see a Bluetooth icon there.
> 
> Yeap, Bluetooth Icon hidden but there.
> 
>> That icon will appear, after the
>> OS downloads the driver(s) for the Device Manager entries. That
>> icon in the tray area, is evidence there is a Bluetooth device present.
>>
>> In the Settings wheel. there is a "Bluetooth and devices" entry.
>> even if you didn't have Bluetooth, that entry would still be
>> labeled the same way.
>>
>> In Bluetooth and Devices : Devices , there is a "discoverable" slider at the top.
> 
> Showing as 'On'.  shows "Discoverable as 'DESKTOP2'"
> Under that there is "Connect a new device to 'DESKTOP2'" and a "Add device" button.
> If I click the 'Add device' button then select 'Bluetooth', the sub-screen shows "Unknown device" and "DESKTOP-FLF6RMQ" .... then, after maybe 30 secs, the "Unknown device" disappears, leaving just the DESKTOP and offers 'Troubleshoot Bluetooth connections'.
> 
>> The "discoverable" will be entirely missing, if the BT adapter is unplugged for example.
> 
> Umm! Isn't the 'BT adapter' part of the Motherboard??
> 
>> I routinely plug and unplug that thing, when testing stuff, so I've seen the
>> item appear... and disappear at the top of "Devices" submenu.
>>
>>     Paul
>>
> Thanks, Paul and Frank and all you others.

The only sage advice here, is to "Leave the discovery window open for a while"
and the <unknown device> will get removed.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/my-bluetooth-shows-all-devices-as-unknown-and/82da23f9-8de7-48f9-b1e1-691ff6dd93d7?page=3

   "Essentially what I did was leave the window Bluetooth window open
    for an extended period of time and let the PC continue to search
    for discoverable devices.  As always, when I first opened the window
    up I would see 20+ unknown devices just like you described and would
    not be able to sync my Bluetooth headset, however simply leaving the
    window open while I multitasked with my day to day work seem to
    resolve the issue. "

This is not a good answer, but it may allow you to (eventually) finish
a pairing, connection, and an intended activity.

   Paul

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#19007

On 3/05/2025 6:41 am, Paul wrote:
> On Fri, 5/2/2025 7:20 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 1/05/2025 2:53 am, Paul wrote:
>>> On Wed, 4/30/2025 10:53 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 1/05/2025 12:33 am, Peter Johnson wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 30 Apr 2025 20:22:46 +1000, Daniel70 
>>>>> <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos
>>>>>> from the phone to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
>>>>> 
>>>>> When your phone is connected to your PC it shows up in File
>>>>> Explorer, from where you can browse its file structure and
>>>>> drag files to your PC, and vice versa.
>>>>> 
>>>> O.K., My phone is, supposedly, connected to my Computer via
>>>> Bluetooth. The 'DESKTOP2' shows up on the phone.
>>>> 
>>>> On the Computer, in File Explorer, I see the normal stuff,
>>>> (Windows C:, Store'N'Go' USB stick, and Network). Selecting
>>>> Network yields Mobile Devices (Archer_VR1600v) and Network
>>>> Infrastructure (Archer_VR1600v) .... which I think is the Wi-Fi
>>>> connected Modem (Why twice???)
>>>> 
>>>> And that's it. If I turn off the Mobile phones Bluetooth,
>>>> nothing changes on the Win 11 Computer. ;-(
>>>> 
>>>> Does this mean I haven't really got Bluetooth set-up on the
>>>> Computer
>>> 
>>> Use Device Manager, which is a right-click on Start, and the
>>> Device Manager is an item in the list there.
>>> 
>>> On my Windows 11 Device Manager, the word "Bluetooth" appears as 
>>> the third item down. Inside the Bluetooth item, there will be 
>>> many items in the list, and one is related to the hardware
>>> device.
>>> 
>>> Asus USB-BT400        <=== Possibly a Broadcom BT adapter
>> 
>> Aspera Jazz 2 Aspera Jazz 2 Avrcp Transport Bluetooth Device
>> (RFCOMM Protocol TDI) Microsoft Bluetooth Enumerator Microsoft
>> Bluetooth LE Enumerator Realtek Wireless Bluetooth Adaptor
>> 
>>> In the tray area (the caret symbol in the lower right corner,
>>> you will see a Bluetooth icon there.
>> 
>> Yeap, Bluetooth Icon hidden but there.
>> 
>>> That icon will appear, after the OS downloads the driver(s) for
>>> the Device Manager entries. That icon in the tray area, is
>>> evidence there is a Bluetooth device present.
>>> 
>>> In the Settings wheel. there is a "Bluetooth and devices" entry. 
>>> even if you didn't have Bluetooth, that entry would still be 
>>> labeled the same way.
>>> 
>>> In Bluetooth and Devices : Devices , there is a "discoverable"
>>> slider at the top.
>> 
>> Showing as 'On'.  shows "Discoverable as 'DESKTOP2'" Under that
>> there is "Connect a new device to 'DESKTOP2'" and a "Add device"
>> button. If I click the 'Add device' button then select 'Bluetooth',
>> the sub-screen shows "Unknown device" and "DESKTOP-FLF6RMQ" ....
>> then, after maybe 30 secs, the "Unknown device" disappears, leaving
>> just the DESKTOP and offers 'Troubleshoot Bluetooth connections'.
>> 
>>> The "discoverable" will be entirely missing, if the BT adapter is
>>> unplugged for example.
>> 
>> Umm! Isn't the 'BT adapter' part of the Motherboard??
>> 
>>> I routinely plug and unplug that thing, when testing stuff, so
>>> I've seen the item appear... and disappear at the top of
>>> "Devices" submenu.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>> Thanks, Paul and Frank and all you others.
> 
> The only sage advice here, is to "Leave the discovery window open for
> a while" and the <unknown device> will get removed.
> 
> https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/my-bluetooth-shows-all-devices-as-unknown-and/82da23f9-8de7-48f9-b1e1-691ff6dd93d7?page=3
>
>  "Essentially what I did was leave the window Bluetooth window open 
> for an extended period of time and let the PC continue to search for
> discoverable devices.  As always, when I first opened the window up I
> would see 20+ unknown devices just like you described and would not
> be able to sync my Bluetooth headset, however simply leaving the 
> window open while I multitasked with my day to day work seem to 
> resolve the issue. "
> 
> This is not a good answer, but it may allow you to (eventually)
> finish a pairing, connection, and an intended activity.
> 
> Paul
> 
Thanks, Paul.
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18843

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 30/04/2025 3:43 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Running Windows 11 24H2.  Trying to send files to my cellphone.
> >>
> >> I can send files to a Windows 10 computer from this computer.
> >>
> >> I am in a Local account on the Windows 11 computer
> >>
> >> When I try to send files to my cellphone using the Send to Function on
> >> the right click drop down menu,  Bluetooth does not show my phone as a
> >> connected device.  There for I can not send files to my phone.
> >>
> >> Same computer same phone.  I can send successfully files by Bluetooth to
> >> the computer.
> >>
> >> Any guess where the MS boy hid the security setting to not show the
> >> cellphone in the Bluetooth Window 11 windows
> > 
> >    In Settings -> Bluetooth & devices, did you try the 'View more
> > devices' pull down?
> > 
> >    For example on my Windows 11 laptop, the 'Bluetooth & devices' page
> > only shows the devices to which I have connected at some time, but the
> > 'View more devices' pull down (goes to the 'Devices' page), also shows
> > Bluetooth devices which are visible but not paired (and hence not
> > connected).
> > 
> >    You could also try the 'Add device' function.
> > 
> >    And you are sure the Bluetooth part of your phone is set to be
> > discoverable/visible. (My Samsung phone is always set that way, but some
> > devices can be set to be not discoverable/visible.)
> > 
> >    BTW, instead of 'Send to' -> 'Bluetooth device', I use 'Send with
> > Quick Share' (other item on the right-click menu). This uses/requires
> > the Google/Samsung 'Quick Share' (used to be called 'Nearby Share')
> > program/app on both (Windows and Android) sides, assuming your
> > 'cellphone' is actually a smartphone and an Android one.
> > 
> (Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)
> 
> Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone 
> showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11 
> Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see 
> "DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)
> 
> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone 
> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??

  As I mentioned, I use the Quick Share program/app on Windows/Android
[1], which is different from the Bluetooth-only method which Keith uses.

  That said, for the Bluetooth-only method:

- Windows to Android:
  In (Windows) File Explorer, select a file and then right-click -> Show
  more options -> Send to -> Bluetooth device -> your phone should show,
  select it -> Next -> 'Accept' on the phone -> file is shown on phone
  -> open it, etc. -> it's also in your Downloads folder.

- Android to Windows:
  In your file manager, long press a file so that it becomes selected
  -> Share -> Bluetooth -> 'Select device' -> select your Windows system
  -> There the buck stops for me, because:

  "/!\ <my_laptop> didn't accept sharing
       request

   Make sure the receiving device (<my_laptop>) is set
   to receive files using Bluetooth.

			   OK"

  As Android to Windows works for Keith (his problem is Windows to
Android), perhaps he can help with that part. (I'm not really
interested, because I use Quick Share).

[1] Quick Share is probably already on your phone. Look in Settings ->
Apps. For Windows there's an app in the Microsoft Store [2]. There's
also a Windows program (.exe) (from Google), that's the one I use [3].

[2] <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj?hl=en-US&gl=NL>

[3] AFAIK, this is a current URL:
<https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/>

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18885

On 1/05/2025 1:46 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 30/04/2025 3:43 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:

<Snip>

>>>     In Settings -> Bluetooth & devices, did you try the 'View more
>>> devices' pull down?
>>>
>>>     For example on my Windows 11 laptop, the 'Bluetooth & devices' page
>>> only shows the devices to which I have connected at some time, but the
>>> 'View more devices' pull down (goes to the 'Devices' page), also shows
>>> Bluetooth devices which are visible but not paired (and hence not
>>> connected).
>>>
>>>     You could also try the 'Add device' function.
>>>
>>>     And you are sure the Bluetooth part of your phone is set to be
>>> discoverable/visible. (My Samsung phone is always set that way, but some
>>> devices can be set to be not discoverable/visible.)
>>>
>>>     BTW, instead of 'Send to' -> 'Bluetooth device', I use 'Send with
>>> Quick Share' (other item on the right-click menu). This uses/requires
>>> the Google/Samsung 'Quick Share' (used to be called 'Nearby Share')
>>> program/app on both (Windows and Android) sides, assuming your
>>> 'cellphone' is actually a smartphone and an Android one.
>>>
>> (Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)
>>
>> Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone
>> showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11
>> Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see
>> "DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)
>>
>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
> 
>    As I mentioned, I use the Quick Share program/app on Windows/Android
> [1], which is different from the Bluetooth-only method which Keith uses.
> 
>    That said, for the Bluetooth-only method:
> 
> - Windows to Android:
>    In (Windows) File Explorer, select a file and then right-click -> Show
>    more options -> Send to -> Bluetooth device -> your phone should show,
>    select it -> Next -> 'Accept' on the phone -> file is shown on phone
>    -> open it, etc. -> it's also in your Downloads folder.
> 
> - Android to Windows:
>    In your file manager, long press a file so that it becomes selected
>    -> Share -> Bluetooth -> 'Select device' -> select your Windows system
>    -> There the buck stops for me, because:

And, wouldn't you know it ..... I select my Windows System "DESKTOP2" on 
the Android ..... and it, apparently, disappears into the big bit bucket!!

(On my phone, I see a message "Bluetooth .... Bluetooth share: Sent 
files .... 0 successful, 3 unsuccessful")

(Note: On my Win11 under "Bluetooth & devices", my Aspera Jazz 2 is 
showing as "Not connected".

If I click on the Phone image, I'm taken to "Bluetooth & devices" >
On the 'Devices' screen I see .....

Input
	HP 125 USB Optical Mouse (.. but I actually have a Wired Mouse)
	HP 125 White Wired Keyboard

Other devices
	Archer VR1600v (my PVR, I think)
	Aspera Jazz 2 .... which shows as 'Not connected
	STORE N GO .... my USB Drive
..............................

Clicking once on the Aspera Jazz 2, I can then click on
	Personal Area Network (PAN) ... with a "Join" button
	Remove this device ... with a "Remove" button
....................................

Clicking the 'Join' button brings up a small screen 'Bluetooth Personal 
Area Network' screen which has an "Access Point" drop down and 'Connect' 
and 'Cancel' buttons
......................................
Clicking that "Access Point" drop down, I'm offered 'Direct connection'. 
Clicking that, the system seems to go off trying to connect .... but 
nothing seems to change.

>    "/!\ <my_laptop> didn't accept sharing
>         request
> 
>     Make sure the receiving device (<my_laptop>) is set
>     to receive files using Bluetooth.

Umm. How do I check this??

> 			   OK"
> 
>    As Android to Windows works for Keith (his problem is Windows to
> Android), perhaps he can help with that part. (I'm not really > interested, because I use Quick Share).
> 
> [1] Quick Share is probably already on your phone. Look in Settings ->
> Apps. For Windows there's an app in the Microsoft Store [2]. There's
> also a Windows program (.exe) (from Google), that's the one I use [3].
> 
> [2] <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj?hl=en-US&gl=NL>
> 
> [3] AFAIK, this is a current URL:
> <https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/>
> 
Gee! Whiz!! I seem to be presenting myself as 'Thick as a Brick' (Good 
Tull album) .... I don't think I am! ;-( Or I wasn't!!)

Should I just give up??
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18889

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 1/05/2025 1:46 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
[...]
> >> (Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)
> >>
> >> Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone
> >> showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11
> >> Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see
> >> "DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)
> >>
> >> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
> >> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
> > 
> >    As I mentioned, I use the Quick Share program/app on Windows/Android
> > [1], which is different from the Bluetooth-only method which Keith uses.
> > 
> >    That said, for the Bluetooth-only method:
> > 
> > - Windows to Android:
> >    In (Windows) File Explorer, select a file and then right-click -> Show
> >    more options -> Send to -> Bluetooth device -> your phone should show,
> >    select it -> Next -> 'Accept' on the phone -> file is shown on phone
> >    -> open it, etc. -> it's also in your Downloads folder.

  Did you try *this*, Windows to Android?

> > - Android to Windows:
> >    In your file manager, long press a file so that it becomes selected
> >    -> Share -> Bluetooth -> 'Select device' -> select your Windows system
> >    -> There the buck stops for me, because:
> 
> And, wouldn't you know it ..... I select my Windows System "DESKTOP2" on 
> the Android ..... and it, apparently, disappears into the big bit bucket!!
> 
> (On my phone, I see a message "Bluetooth .... Bluetooth share: Sent 
> files .... 0 successful, 3 unsuccessful")
> 
> (Note: On my Win11 under "Bluetooth & devices", my Aspera Jazz 2 is 
> showing as "Not connected".
> 
> If I click on the Phone image, I'm taken to "Bluetooth & devices" >
> On the 'Devices' screen I see .....
> 
> Input
>         HP 125 USB Optical Mouse (.. but I actually have a Wired Mouse)
>         HP 125 White Wired Keyboard
> 
> Other devices
>         Archer VR1600v (my PVR, I think)
>         Aspera Jazz 2 .... which shows as 'Not connected
>         STORE N GO .... my USB Drive
> ..............................
> 
> Clicking once on the Aspera Jazz 2, I can then click on
>         Personal Area Network (PAN) ... with a "Join" button
>         Remove this device ... with a "Remove" button
> ....................................
> 
> Clicking the 'Join' button brings up a small screen 'Bluetooth Personal 
> Area Network' screen which has an "Access Point" drop down and 'Connect' 
> and 'Cancel' buttons
> ......................................
> Clicking that "Access Point" drop down, I'm offered 'Direct connection'. 
> Clicking that, the system seems to go off trying to connect .... but 
> nothing seems to change.

  AFAIK, you should *not* use the 'Bluetooth Personal Area Network'
functionality. That's yet another function. Sofar we have three: 1)
Direct *adhoc* Bluetooth connection, 2) Quick Share and 3) Bluetooth
Personal Area Network.

> >    "/!\ <my_laptop> didn't accept sharing
> >         request
> > 
> >     Make sure the receiving device (<my_laptop>) is set
> >     to receive files using Bluetooth.
> 
> Umm. How do I check this??

  As I said (see below), don't ask me. Ask Keith or anyone.

> >                          OK"
> > 
> >    As Android to Windows works for Keith (his problem is Windows to
> > Android), perhaps he can help with that part. (I'm not really >
> > interested, because I use Quick Share).
> > 
> > [1] Quick Share is probably already on your phone. Look in Settings ->
> > Apps. For Windows there's an app in the Microsoft Store [2]. There's
> > also a Windows program (.exe) (from Google), that's the one I use [3].
> > 
> > [2] <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj?hl=en-US&gl=NL>
> > 
> > [3] AFAIK, this is a current URL:
> > <https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/>
> > 
> Gee! Whiz!! I seem to be presenting myself as 'Thick as a Brick' (Good 
> Tull album) .... I don't think I am! ;-( Or I wasn't!!)
> 
> Should I just give up??

  You're not 'Thick as a Brick' at all. As I said, I couldn't get the
(Bluetooth) Android to Windows connection to work either.

  I think you should try the Quick Share method I mentioned. And, as
said, on the Windows side, use the Windows program (.exe) (from Google),
because that's the one I use [3].

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18941

On 1/05/2025 10:40 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
>> On 1/05/2025 1:46 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> [...]
>>>> (Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone
>>>> showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11
>>>> Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see
>>>> "DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)
>>>>
>>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
>>>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
>>>
>>>     As I mentioned, I use the Quick Share program/app on Windows/Android
>>> [1], which is different from the Bluetooth-only method which Keith uses.
>>>
>>>     That said, for the Bluetooth-only method:
>>>
>>> - Windows to Android:
>>>     In (Windows) File Explorer, select a file and then right-click -> Show
>>>     more options -> Send to -> Bluetooth device -> your phone should show,
>>>     select it -> Next -> 'Accept' on the phone -> file is shown on phone
>>>     -> open it, etc. -> it's also in your Downloads folder.
> 
>    Did you try *this*, Windows to Android?

No, Frank, cause that's not what I want to do .... but as you asked 
again .... I turned Bluetooth ON on my Mobile phone then, in bottom 
right of screen, I selected the 'Network and Internet settings' thingee, 
selected the 'Bluetooth' setting and it showed my Aspera Jazz 2 as 'Not 
Connected'. Double clicking on it achieved ZERO.


Taking into account what I've typed above, when I Right Click a File to 
share from the SSD on the 'Share' screen the file I've selected is shown 
then 'No contacts yet' and 'share using .... Nearby sharing .... Notepad 
.... Paint .... Snipping Tool'

Selecting 'Nearby Sharing' brings up a screen to ...

"Turn On" sharing with a nearby Windows PC, or, "My Phone"

Selecting "My Phone" brings up a "Phone Link" screen. Select 'Android". 
That brings up a Microsoft Sign in screen ..... No Thank You!!

>>> - Android to Windows:
>>>     In your file manager, long press a file so that it becomes selected
>>>     -> Share -> Bluetooth -> 'Select device' -> select your Windows system
>>>     -> There the buck stops for me, because:
>>
>> And, wouldn't you know it ..... I select my Windows System "DESKTOP2" on
>> the Android ..... and it, apparently, disappears into the big bit bucket!!
>>
>> (On my phone, I see a message "Bluetooth .... Bluetooth share: Sent
>> files .... 0 successful, 3 unsuccessful")
>>
>> (Note: On my Win11 under "Bluetooth & devices", my Aspera Jazz 2 is
>> showing as "Not connected".
>>
>> If I click on the Phone image, I'm taken to "Bluetooth & devices" >
>> On the 'Devices' screen I see .....
>>
>> Input
>>          HP 125 USB Optical Mouse (.. but I actually have a Wired Mouse)
>>          HP 125 White Wired Keyboard
>>
>> Other devices
>>          Archer VR1600v (my PVR, I think)
>>          Aspera Jazz 2 .... which shows as 'Not connected
>>          STORE N GO .... my USB Drive
>> ..............................
>>
>> Clicking once on the Aspera Jazz 2, I can then click on
>>          Personal Area Network (PAN) ... with a "Join" button
>>          Remove this device ... with a "Remove" button
>> ....................................
>>
>> Clicking the 'Join' button brings up a small screen 'Bluetooth Personal
>> Area Network' screen which has an "Access Point" drop down and 'Connect'
>> and 'Cancel' buttons
>> ......................................
>> Clicking that "Access Point" drop down, I'm offered 'Direct connection'.
>> Clicking that, the system seems to go off trying to connect .... but
>> nothing seems to change.
> 
>    AFAIK, you should *not* use the 'Bluetooth Personal Area Network'
> functionality. That's yet another function. Sofar we have three: 1)
> Direct *adhoc* Bluetooth connection, 2) Quick Share and 3) Bluetooth
> Personal Area Network.
> 
>>>     "/!\ <my_laptop> didn't accept sharing
>>>          request
>>>
>>>      Make sure the receiving device (<my_laptop>) is set
>>>      to receive files using Bluetooth.
>>
>> Umm. How do I check this??
> 
>    As I said (see below), don't ask me. Ask Keith or anyone.
> 
>>>                           OK"
>>>
>>>     As Android to Windows works for Keith (his problem is Windows to
>>> Android), perhaps he can help with that part. (I'm not really >
>>> interested, because I use Quick Share).
>>>
>>> [1] Quick Share is probably already on your phone. Look in Settings ->
>>> Apps. For Windows there's an app in the Microsoft Store [2]. There's
>>> also a Windows program (.exe) (from Google), that's the one I use [3].
>>>
>>> [2] <https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9pctgdfxvzlj?hl=en-US&gl=NL>
>>>
>>> [3] AFAIK, this is a current URL:
>>> <https://www.android.com/better-together/quick-share-app/>
>>>
>> Gee! Whiz!! I seem to be presenting myself as 'Thick as a Brick' (Good
>> Tull album) .... I don't think I am! ;-( Or I wasn't!!)
>>
>> Should I just give up??
> 
>    You're not 'Thick as a Brick' at all. As I said, I couldn't get the
> (Bluetooth) Android to Windows connection to work either.

Oh, Deary Me!!

>    I think you should try the Quick Share method I mentioned. And, as
> said, on the Windows side, use the Windows program (.exe) (from Google),
> because that's the one I use [3].
> 
Back tracking to find this suggestion
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18953

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> On 1/05/2025 10:40 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
> >> On 1/05/2025 1:46 am, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> > [...]
> >>>> (Sorry .... If I can cut in on this thread ....)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks to the advice here, I now have my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone
> >>>> showing as a Connected device under "Bluetooth & devices" on my Win 11
> >>>> Desktop .... and, on my "Aspera Jazz 2" mobile phone, I can see
> >>>> "DESKTOP2" on my mobile phone (I don't know where DESKTOP1 is. ;-P Not me!!)
> >>>>
> >>>> How do I now use this connection to 'send' files/photos from the phone
> >>>> to the Desktop?? And/or vice versa??
> >>>
> >>>     As I mentioned, I use the Quick Share program/app on Windows/Android
> >>> [1], which is different from the Bluetooth-only method which Keith uses.
> >>>
> >>>     That said, for the Bluetooth-only method:
> >>>
> >>> - Windows to Android:
> >>>     In (Windows) File Explorer, select a file and then right-click -> Show
> >>>     more options -> Send to -> Bluetooth device -> your phone should show,
> >>>     select it -> Next -> 'Accept' on the phone -> file is shown on phone
> >>>     -> open it, etc. -> it's also in your Downloads folder.
> > 
> >    Did you try *this*, Windows to Android?
> 
> No, Frank, cause that's not what I want to do .... but as you asked 
> again .... I turned Bluetooth ON on my Mobile phone then, in bottom 
> right of screen, I selected the 'Network and Internet settings' thingee, 
> selected the 'Bluetooth' setting and it showed my Aspera Jazz 2 as 'Not 
> Connected'. Double clicking on it achieved ZERO.

  Please follow my 'Windows to Android:' instructions. They do *not*
talk about going to 'Network and Internet settings' and it does not
matter that your phone shows as 'Not Connected', because it *will* be
connected in the "your phone should show, select it" step.

  Moral: Don't mix up instructions.

> Taking into account what I've typed above, when I Right Click a File to 
> share from the SSD on the 'Share' screen the file I've selected is shown 
> then 'No contacts yet' and 'share using .... Nearby sharing .... Notepad 
> .... Paint .... Snipping Tool'

  Again, in my example, I'm *not* talking about a 'Share' or 'Nearby
sharing' method, but about "Send to -> Bluetooth device", totally
different animals.

[More confusion deleted.]

> >    I think you should try the Quick Share method I mentioned. And, as
> > said, on the Windows side, use the Windows program (.exe) (from Google),
> > because that's the one I use [3].
> > 
> Back tracking to find this suggestion

  It's the one with the [1], [2], [3] footnotes.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18942

On 1/05/2025 10:40 pm, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

<Snip>

>> And, wouldn't you know it ..... I select my Windows System "DESKTOP2" on
>> the Android ..... and it, apparently, disappears into the big bit bucket!!
>>
>> (On my phone, I see a message "Bluetooth .... Bluetooth share: Sent
>> files .... 0 successful, 3 unsuccessful")
>>
>> (Note: On my Win11 under "Bluetooth & devices", my Aspera Jazz 2 is
>> showing as "Not connected".
>>
>> If I click on the Phone image, I'm taken to "Bluetooth & devices" >
>> On the 'Devices' screen I see .....
>>
>> Input
>>          HP 125 USB Optical Mouse (.. but I actually have a Wired Mouse)
>>          HP 125 White Wired Keyboard
>>
>> Other devices
>>          Archer VR1600v (my PVR, I think)
>>          Aspera Jazz 2 .... which shows as 'Not connected
>>          STORE N GO .... my USB Drive
>> ..............................
>>
>> Clicking once on the Aspera Jazz 2, I can then click on
>>          Personal Area Network (PAN) ... with a "Join" button
>>          Remove this device ... with a "Remove" button
>> ....................................
>>
>> Clicking the 'Join' button brings up a small screen 'Bluetooth Personal
>> Area Network' screen which has an "Access Point" drop down and 'Connect'
>> and 'Cancel' buttons
>> ......................................
>> Clicking that "Access Point" drop down, I'm offered 'Direct connection'.
>> Clicking that, the system seems to go off trying to connect .... but
>> nothing seems to change.
> 
>    AFAIK, you should *not* use the 'Bluetooth Personal Area Network'
> functionality. That's yet another function. Sofar we have three: 1)
> Direct *adhoc* Bluetooth connection, 2) Quick Share and 3) Bluetooth
> Personal Area Network.

Perhaps I should just give up on trying to set-up High Teck and just try 
to get it working via USB Connection .... I mean I often have my Phone 
plugged into my Computer to Charge the Phone Battery!!
-- 
Daniel70

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

#18952

Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

[All deleted.]

> Perhaps I should just give up on trying to set-up High Teck and just try 
> to get it working via USB Connection .... I mean I often have my Phone 
> plugged into my Computer to Charge the Phone Battery!!

  Yes, a USB connection is perfectly fine and actually allows to access
more of the file system on the phone than many other methods.

  I use the Quick Share method only if I need to transfer only a few
files/folders and the phone is not connected via USB.

  BTW, both the USB (is MTP) method and the Quick Share method allows
you transfer files/folders from Android to Windows and vice versa, while
controlling the transfer from the Windows system, i.e. with a real
keyboard, big display and 'mouse'.

[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]

Page 1 of 2  [1] 2  Next page →

Back to top | Article view | alt.comp.os.windows-11

csiph-web