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| From | Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.logic |
| Subject | Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value |
| Date | 2023-06-18 23:32 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <u6nt58$1g9e2$1@solani.org> (permalink) |
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You are changing the topic. I don't want to discuss ALL =>. The implication is irrelevant. Also the universal quantifier. Because the topic is, what is a "proposition". So I don't need this to discuss what is a "proposition". 1 ALL(a):[Man(a) => Mortal(a)] Axiom I want to discuss "closed formulas" such as: Man(aristotle) Mortal(aristotle) Do they have the status of a parameterless "proposition"? Where we assume they have either true or false value? If something has either true or false, we can for example prove: ((A => B) & (~A => B) => B) Now you have in the same formula A refering to a "proposition" being true. And ~A refering to a "proposition" being false. Is the same still valid if we replace A by Mortal(DanChristensen) and B by Sun(Hot). Do you need FOL to prove the following? ((Mortal(DanChristensen) => Sun(Hot)) & (~Mortal(DanChristensen) => Sun(Hot)) => Sun(Hot)) You seem to claim that it is impossible to apply propositional logic reasoning to propositions that have not strictly the syntactic shape "p". Whereas every logician will not hesitate to confirm, that propositional logic reasoning applies also to other shapes, like FOL shapes, i.e. "p(t1,..,tn)" or to modal formulas, i.e. "[]p" where Box is a modal operator. But you might not yet be ready for such insights. Dan Christensen schrieb: > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 2:05:57 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote: > > >> Dan Christensen schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 19:37:01 UTC+2: >>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 12:10:57 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote: >>> >>>> Dan Christensen schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 17:03:20 UTC+2: >>>>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:10:23 AM UTC-4, Mild Shock (aka Mr. Collapse) wrote: >>>>>> Dan Christensen halucinated "It seems "intuitively obvious" >>>>>> to me that classical propositional logic is applicable to >>>>>> statements that ARE (present tense) unambiguously true or >>>>>> false IN THE PRESENT." >>>>> If you want to talk about logical propositions, the truth-values of which may vary over time, classical propositional logic will not suffice. It's that simple, Mr. Collapse. Some form of temporal logic, e.g. predicate logic with a variable for time would then be required for consistency. >>>>> >>>>> In classical propositional logic, we say, for example, that proposition P _is_ true, or that proposition Q _is_ false (both in the present tense). When we say that P implies Q, we mean only that it _is_ false that both P _is_ true and Q _is_ false. Or equivalently, that P _is_ false or Q _is_ true. There is no passage of time or chronological record of events or predictions of future events. In classical propositional logic, there is only that which _is_ true, and that which _is_ false. >>>>> >>> >>>> The proposition itself can express some future: >>>> >>>> mortal_dan_christensen >>>> >>>> To what time frame relative to now >>>> does „mortal“ reference in your opinion? >>> Formalizing that most famous syllogism of antiquity using modern notation: >>> >>> 1 ALL(a):[Man(a) => Mortal(a)] >>> Axiom >>> >>> 2 Man(aristotle) >>> Axiom >>> >>> 3 Man(aristotle) => Mortal(aristotle) >>> U Spec, 1 >>> >>> 4 Mortal(aristotle) >>> Detach, 3, 2 >>> >>> I don't think it can be stated in PROPOSITIONAL logic alone, i.e. without variables and a quantifier. In any case, no timeframe is specified here for the predicate Mortal. A variable for time might be introduced in a more detailed formalism with time of birth/death, etc. > >> You can state it in propositional logic: >> >> human_aristotele -> mortal_aristotele >> human_aristotele >> -------------------------------------- >> mortal_aristotele >> > > You seem to have missed the point. You might as well have said "bald" instead of "mortal." The quality in question is supposed to apply to ALL men. > > The syllogism is usually stated: > > All men are mortal. <-------- You missed this key assumption about men and mortality. > Socrates is a man. > __________________________________________ > Therefore, Socrates is mortal. > > Dan > > Download my DC Proof 2.0 freeware at http://www.dcproof.com > Visit my Math Blog at http://www.dcproof.wordpress.com >
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Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-15 22:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 02:48 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 03:09 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 08:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 15:36 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 15:48 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 19:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 19:56 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-17 04:53 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 04:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 05:04 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-17 09:01 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 06:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 06:53 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 06:57 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 06:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 07:04 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 07:15 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:06 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:17 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:36 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 08:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 09:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 09:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-17 13:23 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 12:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-17 18:01 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 20:09 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-18 00:58 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-18 02:23 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 06:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 06:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 06:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 08:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 09:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 10:36 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 12:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2023-06-18 23:32 +0200
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 14:42 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 15:09 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:24 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:47 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 15:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 16:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 18:53 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 01:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 01:31 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 01:38 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jim Burns <james.g.burns@att.net> - 2023-06-19 11:14 -0400
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-19 06:44 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 07:23 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 07:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-19 07:51 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 08:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 15:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-19 19:42 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 22:31 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 23:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 23:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-19 23:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 07:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 08:15 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 08:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 12:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 12:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 13:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 15:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 20:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 21:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 21:39 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 23:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 00:50 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 06:31 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 08:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 08:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 09:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 09:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 09:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 09:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 09:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 09:25 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 09:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 09:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 09:41 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 10:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 11:13 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 11:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 13:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 22:00 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-21 22:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 22:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-21 22:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 02:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 03:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 03:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-22 03:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 04:09 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 04:13 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 04:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-22 08:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-22 08:59 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 13:42 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 09:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-24 11:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 09:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 15:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 21:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 22:42 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 00:17 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 00:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 00:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 00:41 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-26 09:31 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 10:58 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-26 12:36 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-26 17:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-26 18:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-26 18:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 20:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-26 21:13 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 04:15 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 04:27 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:24 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 12:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 12:53 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:45 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Daniel Pehoushek <pehoushek1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 14:39 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 15:48 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 16:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 16:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-28 20:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:51 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 00:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 08:58 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 09:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 10:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 11:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:57 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 15:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 11:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 15:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 12:23 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 13:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:44 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 21:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 14:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Charlie-Boo <shymathguy@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 05:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 15:39 -0500
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:53 -0700
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