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| Subject | Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value |
| From | Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> |
I think there is a saying among mathematicians/physicists that runs counter Mark Thakkar skepticism about reasoning with the future. They say we live in a fourth dimensional continuum, the 3 dimensions of space, and then there is the 4th dimension of time. But its all the same geometry. Unless you are from the projective geometry camp, then you might even work with more dimensions. Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:49:53 UTC+2: > Now there are 7 weekdays, and therefore 128 possible > combinations, of weekdays drinking and not drinking. > Now if you are at the beginning of the week, > > you nevertheless know that this formula is true, > without knowning the future, which pattern of the > 128 possible combinations will consist the concrete > > week just before you! > Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:47:08 UTC+2: > > Now you can make a drinker paradox, about a guy > > sitting alone at home, and drinking at home. The home > > drinking paradox deals with weekdays and the future. > > > > Lets say D(x) doesn't stand that the drinker x drinks, > > but it stands that the home alone drinker drinks on > > weekday x. Is this generally valid: > > > > /* There exists a weekday so that the home alone > > drinker drinks all weekdays? */ > > ∃x(Dx → ∀yDy) > > Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:40:58 UTC+2: > > > For example normally you cannot prove: > > > > > > p→¬p is invalid. > > > https://www.umsu.de/trees/#p~5~3p > > > > > > But you can prove: > > > > > > p→p is valid. > > > https://www.umsu.de/trees/#p~5p > > > > > > If you attach the value false to p, suddently p→¬p becomes > > > also provable. As is seen here: > > > > > > ¬p → (p→¬p) is valid. > > > https://www.umsu.de/trees/#~3p~5(p~5~3p) > > > Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:35:32 UTC+2: > > > > Well "Or Not" in DC Poop is not the best indicator that closed > > > > formulas don't have permantly attached truth values. A good > > > > example is maybe the drinker paradox: > > > > > > > > ∃x(Dx → ∀yDy) is valid. > > > > https://www.umsu.de/trees/#~7x(Dx~5~6yDy) > > > > > > > > If you had the false value attached to the closed formula > > > > ∀yDy, then you would have ¬∀yDy, and therefore ∃y¬Dy > > > > as in your application of Russell Paradox. And then you > > > > > > > > can make ∀yDy irrelevant. i.e. both provable ∃x(Dx → ∀yDy) > > > > and ∃x(Dx → ∀yDy), namely the nonsense your > > > > Generalized Drinker Paradox produces: > > > > > > > > ∃y¬Dy → ∃x(Dx → ¬∀yDy) is valid. > > > > https://www.umsu.de/trees/#~7y~3Dy~5~7x(Dx~5~3~6yDy) > > > > > > > > So maybe a logical test about "not permantly" attached, > > > > would be some independence. > > > > Mild Shock schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:24:41 UTC+2: > > > > > You don't attach truth values permanently to closed formulas. > > > > > You assume truth values true or false, make it a supposition. > > > > > Thats why you have the inference rule Or Not in DC Poop. > > > > > > > > > > What would Mark Thakkar say to the below DC Poop proof? > > > > > You cited “My principal argument for the claim that statements > > > > > about the future have no truth-values is that otherwise they > > > > > > > > > > would have the standard entailments of propositional logic." > > > > > Is the below proof illegal? What does he mean by "would have"? > > > > > Does he completely exclude propositional entailment? > > > > > > > > > > Or does he have certain forms of propositional entailment in mind? > > > > > For example there are certain modal logics where |- doesn't > > > > > behave like =>. Its not clear what Mark Thakkar quote means > > > > > > > > > > for the below proof. And I doubt Dan Christensen knows either? > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------- begin DC Proof -------------------------------------- > > > > > 1 Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) > > > > > Axiom > > > > > > > > > > 2 ~Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) > > > > > Axiom > > > > > > > > > > 3 Mortal(danChristensen) | ~Mortal(danChristensen) > > > > > Or Not > > > > > > > > > > 4 [Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun)] > > > > > & [~Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun)] > > > > > Join, 1, 2 > > > > > > > > > > 5 Hot(sun) > > > > > Cases, 3, 4 > > > > > --------------------------------------- end DC Proof -------------------------------------- > > > > > Dan Christensen schrieb am Montag, 19. Juni 2023 um 00:09:22 UTC+2: > > > > > > Maybe you can explain how your "closed formulas" here allow us to attach > > > > > > truth values in the present to events that have yet to occur, i.e. to predict the future.
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:34 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:32 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 11:24 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 12:53 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:45 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Daniel Pehoushek <pehoushek1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 14:39 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 15:48 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 16:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 16:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-28 20:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:51 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 00:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 08:58 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 09:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 10:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 11:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:57 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 15:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 11:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 15:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 12:23 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 13:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:44 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 21:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 14:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Charlie-Boo <shymathguy@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 05:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 15:39 -0500
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:53 -0700
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