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| Subject | Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value |
| From | Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> |
Here is a proof of: Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) ~Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) --------------------------------------------------------------- Hot(sun) I don't think it uses some FOL specific inference rules, these are all inference rules also available in propositional logic, i.e. Or Not, Join and Cases: 1 Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) Axiom 2 ~Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun) Axiom 3 Mortal(danChristensen) | ~Mortal(danChristensen) Or Not 4 [Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun)] & [~Mortal(danChristensen) => Hot(sun)] Join, 1, 2 5 Hot(sun) Cases, 3, 4 So don't worry. In case the sun is hot if you are mortal or immortal, the sun is still hot. Mild Shock schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 23:32:27 UTC+2: > You are changing the topic. I don't want to discuss ALL =>. > The implication is irrelevant. Also the universal > quantifier. Because the topic is, what is a "proposition". > > So I don't need this to discuss what is a "proposition". > 1 ALL(a):[Man(a) => Mortal(a)] > Axiom > I want to discuss "closed formulas" such as: > > Man(aristotle) > Mortal(aristotle) > > Do they have the status of a parameterless "proposition"? > Where we assume they have either true or false value? If > something has either true or false, we can for example prove: > > ((A => B) & (~A => B) => B) > > Now you have in the same formula A refering to a "proposition" > being true. And ~A refering to a "proposition" being false. > Is the same still valid if we replace A by Mortal(DanChristensen) > > and B by Sun(Hot). Do you need FOL to prove the following? > > ((Mortal(DanChristensen) => Sun(Hot)) & > (~Mortal(DanChristensen) => Sun(Hot)) => Sun(Hot)) > > You seem to claim that it is impossible to apply propositional > logic reasoning to propositions that have not strictly the > syntactic shape "p". Whereas every logician will not hesitate > > to confirm, that propositional logic reasoning applies > also to other shapes, like FOL shapes, i.e. "p(t1,..,tn)" > or to modal formulas, i.e. "[]p" where Box is a modal operator. > > But you might not yet be ready for such insights. > > Dan Christensen schrieb: > > On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 2:05:57 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote: > > > > > >> Dan Christensen schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 19:37:01 UTC+2: > >>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 12:10:57 PM UTC-4, Mild Shock wrote: > >>> > >>>> Dan Christensen schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Juni 2023 um 17:03:20 UTC+2: > >>>>> On Sunday, June 18, 2023 at 9:10:23 AM UTC-4, Mild Shock (aka Mr. Collapse) wrote: > >>>>>> Dan Christensen halucinated "It seems "intuitively obvious" > >>>>>> to me that classical propositional logic is applicable to > >>>>>> statements that ARE (present tense) unambiguously true or > >>>>>> false IN THE PRESENT." > >>>>> If you want to talk about logical propositions, the truth-values of which may vary over time, classical propositional logic will not suffice. It's that simple, Mr. Collapse. Some form of temporal logic, e.g. predicate logic with a variable for time would then be required for consistency. > >>>>> > >>>>> In classical propositional logic, we say, for example, that proposition P _is_ true, or that proposition Q _is_ false (both in the present tense). When we say that P implies Q, we mean only that it _is_ false that both P _is_ true and Q _is_ false. Or equivalently, that P _is_ false or Q _is_ true. There is no passage of time or chronological record of events or predictions of future events. In classical propositional logic, there is only that which _is_ true, and that which _is_ false. > >>>>> > >>> > >>>> The proposition itself can express some future: > >>>> > >>>> mortal_dan_christensen > >>>> > >>>> To what time frame relative to now > >>>> does „mortal“ reference in your opinion? > >>> Formalizing that most famous syllogism of antiquity using modern notation: > >>> > >>> 1 ALL(a):[Man(a) => Mortal(a)] > >>> Axiom > >>> > >>> 2 Man(aristotle) > >>> Axiom > >>> > >>> 3 Man(aristotle) => Mortal(aristotle) > >>> U Spec, 1 > >>> > >>> 4 Mortal(aristotle) > >>> Detach, 3, 2 > >>> > >>> I don't think it can be stated in PROPOSITIONAL logic alone, i.e. without variables and a quantifier. In any case, no timeframe is specified here for the predicate Mortal. A variable for time might be introduced in a more detailed formalism with time of birth/death, etc. > > > >> You can state it in propositional logic: > >> > >> human_aristotele -> mortal_aristotele > >> human_aristotele > >> -------------------------------------- > >> mortal_aristotele > >> > > > > You seem to have missed the point. You might as well have said "bald" instead of "mortal." The quality in question is supposed to apply to ALL men. > > > > The syllogism is usually stated: > > > > All men are mortal. <-------- You missed this key assumption about men and mortality. > > Socrates is a man. > > __________________________________________ > > Therefore, Socrates is mortal. > > > > Dan > > > > Download my DC Proof 2.0 freeware at http://www.dcproof.com > > Visit my Math Blog at http://www.dcproof.wordpress.com > >
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 09:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 15:34 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-25 16:34 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:32 -0700
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Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:33 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 12:53 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 12:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 13:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:35 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 13:45 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Daniel Pehoushek <pehoushek1@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:10 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 14:39 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 15:48 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-27 16:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-27 16:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-28 20:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-25 19:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-22 23:51 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 00:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 08:58 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 09:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 10:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 10:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 11:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 13:57 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:26 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 14:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 14:55 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:12 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 15:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-23 15:54 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:14 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:19 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-23 17:29 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-20 15:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-20 11:37 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-18 15:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 12:23 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 13:27 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Ross Finlayson <ross.a.finlayson@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:40 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:44 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 11:49 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:18 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-18 12:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 21:22 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:02 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 04:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:28 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:30 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:43 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-16 14:05 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Charlie-Boo <shymathguy@gmail.com> - 2023-06-16 16:16 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:21 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 03:32 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Dan Christensen <Dan_Christensen@sympatico.ca> - 2023-06-17 05:03 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:08 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> - 2023-06-17 05:11 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Mild Shock <bursejan@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 05:20 -0700
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value PLO olcott <polcott2@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 15:39 -0500
Re: Why predictions about the future have no truth value Jeffrey Rubard <jeffreydanielrubard@gmail.com> - 2023-06-17 13:53 -0700
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