Re: You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!

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Subject	Re: You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!
From	Brock McNuggets <Brock.McNuggets@gmail.com>
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Date	2026-05-23 16:35 +0000

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David B. <"David B."@invalid.org> wrote:
> On 23/05/2026 14:32, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On May 23, 2026 at 3:51:20 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n7df59Fiod9U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 23/05/2026 03:34, Gremlin wrote:
>>>> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n7b0dhF70fqU1@mid.individual.net
>>>> Fri, 22 May 2026 12:27:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 21/05/2026 23:33, Gremlin wrote:
>>>>>> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
>>>>>> news:n783cnFnhgqU1@mid.individual.net Thu, 21 May 2026 09:59:51 GMT in
>>>>>> alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's not found by a routine search.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suppose holding a key down makes it non routine, then?
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is correct. The "Library" and contents is/are deliberately hidden
>>>>> from the 'normal' user.
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm? I suppose that depends on what you mean by a normal user. Are we
>>>> talking near complete idiot level, normal user-like you, or someone more
>>>> like snit in so far as familiarity with their machines OS? If the latter, I
>>>> completely disagree with you. If the former, I understand why you might
>>>> think that; despite my still not agreeing with you on this.
>>> 
>>> EtreCheck claims that it is removed simply by dragging it to the 'Bin'.
>>> 
>>> That is *NOT* the case.
>> 
>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
> 
> It's just fine for any software loaded from the Apple App Store
> (As recommended by Apple)

And other apps. It’s the norm on macOS. 

Part of what you’re running into is seeing how one app does something and
assuming incorrectly it’s wrong or bad or uncommon when it’s not. 

The only even small question you’ve found is why does it save old reports.
My guess — without looking at the app — is it has some capacity to compare.
Or keeps them so the user can. Would it be best to be more transparent?
Maybe but there’s a balance of doing and telling — you can’t tell the user
every inconsequential thing and not overwhelm them. You’re turning a tiny
molehill into a mountain and doing so in a vacuum of understanding how apps
typically work on macOS. 

>>>> The warning is stating that changes to the file will be lost if you choose
>>>> not to save it. It isn't claiming the file prior to alteration will be
>>>> deleted/lost if you don't save.
>>>> Are you having a couple of sips before you use the software or something?
>>>> Slow down, bud.
>>> 
>>> EtreCheck is *NOT* removed from a Mac by simply dragging it to the Trash/Bin
>> 
>> How is it different than other macOS apps?
> 
> That is a fair point, and it explains exactly why this debate happens.
> 
> EtreCheck is designed to automatically archive every report it runs. It 
> saves these historical logs inside the user's hidden 
> ~/Library/Application Support/ folder so you can access them later via 
> the app's File > Previous reports menu.
> 
> The average user usually has no idea these files are piling up in a 
> hidden directory. If you simply drag the EtreCheck app to the Bin, those 
> old text reports remain on the hard drive indefinitely. To actually wipe 
> them out, a user either has to know how to navigate to the hidden 
> Library folder, use a dedicated uninstaller utility, or use the "Delete 
> previous reports" option explicitly built into EtreCheck's own File menu 
> before throwing the app away.

Most apps have similar folders. So, again, how is it different. And above
you say the app is not removed — you did not back that and changed focus to
files from the app. Was that on purpose? Are you rescinding that claim or
can you support it? 



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