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Re: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!)

From "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!)
Date 2026-04-12 16:27 +0100
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On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
> On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38β€―AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
> <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
>>> On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38β€―PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
>>> <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
>> [....]
>>>> Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?
>>>>
>>>> ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck
>>>>
>>>> Do tell. Thanks.
>>>
>>> I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
>>> hidden ones too! :)
>>
>> Thank you for confirming that, Brock! πŸ™‚
> 
> Sure.
>>
>> As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
>>      ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.
> 
> Nor is thee any need.
>>
>> Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?
> 
> And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
> Options
> 
> There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home
> folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.
> 
> But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
> to go into.

That is a fair point regarding the View Options; it’s certainly a more
permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
access to ~/Library.

>> OK
>>
>> Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"
>>
>> Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!
> 
> If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.

Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

> But I would expect them to be gone.

Pssst - they will be! ;-)

>> If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck
> 
> I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
> why would you advise people to do this?

Simply to establish the truth.

>> Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
>> should you want to.
>>
>> Then delete the EtreCheck report.
>>
>> When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.
>>
>> All straight-forward!
>>
>> Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"
>>
>> Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?
>>
>> If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!
>>
>> Please advise.
> 
> Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.

The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
user agency and data persistence.

If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting.
It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
the scenes.

The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
aren't always transparent to the average user.

If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, I’d be
interested to hear if your findings match what I’ve observed regarding
those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

-- 
Kind regards,
David

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