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Re: You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!

From "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: You can protect your Mac from malware by following three simple rules!
Date 2026-05-21 10:59 +0100
Organization Retired
Message-ID <n783cnFnhgqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 21/05/2026 03:59, Gremlin wrote:
> "David B." <"David B."@invalid.org> news:n75cppFajbvU1@mid.individual.net
> Wed, 20 May 2026 09:22:01 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
> 
>> On 20/05/2026 03:51, Gremlin wrote:
>>> "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> news:n6tqfkFk1bjU1@mid.individual.net
>>> Sun, 17 May 2026 12:26:28 GMT in alt.computer.workshop, wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd like to take up one specific point with you. Even if a product
>>>> user elects to NOT save an EtreCheck report, a complete copy *IS* kept
>>>> on the user's computer, hidden away where most folk will not find it.
>>>
>>> Why do you think it's hidden away where most people wouldn't find it?
>>
>> I don't just THINK it is - it *IS* hidden!
> 
> I'm aware the folder they branch from is hidden, but, I still don't
> understand why you think most people wouldn't find it? It's not that hidden
> if you think about it.

It's not found by a routine search.
>> One has to use the "option" key to actually FIND the LIBRARY entry where
>> the containing folder may be found. It's hidden away in "Application
>> Support" in a folder called "EtreCheck". Within THAT folder is another
>> one called "PreviousReports". I
> 
> David, this is so well known that google's AI is well aware of it. It
> considers this to be method 2 of gaining access to the files if you wanted
> to do so.

Please provide the AI answer to which you refer.
I'd like to ee what AI reported to you.

>> They are, as I said, well hidden.
> 
> I don't know why? the other search options you listed can't find them? But,
> they are not well hidden. They are in your home folder/Library folder as you
> said, but, this is a common folder location and it is well known.

I found that rather odd too.
>> *WHY* are they there????
>>>> One of the features of EtreCheck is that when it is opened it will
>>>> 'phone home' to Etresoft to check for updates. By so doing it provides
>>>> John Daniel the actual IP address of the user.
>>>
>>> It provides an IP address. It can't get the specific user from an IP
>>> address alone. You have heard of networks, right?
>>
>> Indeed I have!
> 
> Yet you know nothing about them? Can you explain that to me?

I'll quote instead:-

Key ConceptsThe Structure:

IP addresses have two parts. One part identifies the Network (the larger
group) and the other identifies the Host (the specific device on that 
network).

Subnet Masks: A subnet mask is used to divide an IP address into these
network and host sections, which dictates the size of the network.

IP Address VersionsIPv4: The older standard consisting of four numbers
between 0 and 255 (e.g., 192.168.1.1). It allows for roughly 4.3 billion
unique addresses.IPv6:

The modern standard using alphanumeric characters and colons (e.g.,
2001:0db8:85a3:0000:0000:8a2e:0370:7334). It provides a virtually
limitless number of addresses.

Types of IP Addresses

Public IP: Assigned by your Internet Service Provider (ISP).

It identifies your entire network (like a home or office router) to the 
outside internet.

Private IP: Used exclusively inside a local network (e.g., your 
smartphone connected to your home Wi-Fi). These cannot be accessed 
directly from the public internet.

Static vs. Dynamic: A static IP address is manually configured and never 
changes, whereas a dynamic IP address is automatically assigned by the 
network and can rotate or change over time.

>>>> You are well aware that unscrupulous characters can use that
>>>> information to scan for open ports and, if found, can sneak into a
>>>> computer unseen.
>>>
>>> That's a gross over simplification of the process, David.
>>
>> Thank you for confirming that is *IS* possible!
> 
> Please, re-read what I wrote. It's nowhere near as simple as you are trying
> to make it out to be.

My techie friend showed me how to do it - and I have - with Kali!

>>>> I discovered that *YOU* were a *VIRUS WRITER*!!!!!!
>>>
>>> You discovered something that's been public information for almost a
>>> decade longer than I've known you? Exactly how did you do this?
>>> An investigator you are not. An idiot, you are.
>>
>> I used SOPHOS at work. A fellow you once clashed swords with also worked
>> for SOPHOS. A good man by all accounts. Do you remember his name?!!!
> 
> You aren't answering my questions, David. You claimed that you discovered
> that I was at one point a virus writer. Perhaps instead of discovered, you
> meant to say that you learned about some of my past? That would be more
> accurate.

OK - I'll accept that. But I did have much correspondence with Graham 
Cluely about you!
>> That's how I found you!
> 
> I wasn't hiding, David.

True.

>> Here's a reminder!
>> https://groups.google.com/g/alt.comp.virus/c/mztWdeoWoGU
> 
> That thread also confirms I wasn't hiding. I've been very clear concerning
> some of the stupid shit I did. The last malware I wrote is twenty six years
> old now, David.

It's good to hear you say that you were stupid - VERY stupid!
-- 
David

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