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Re: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules! ) (was: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules! ))

From Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac
Subject Re: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules! ) (was: Today's challenge! 😈 (Was - You can protec t your Mac from malware by following three simple rules! ))
Organization Southern Nevada Institute of Technology
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Date 2026-04-12 18:04 +0000
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On Apr 12, 2026 at 8:27:40β€―AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
<n41rvcFev6eU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On 12/04/2026 16:11, Brock McNuggets wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 2026 at 7:49:38β€―AM MST, ""David B."" wrote
>> <n41po2Fejs2U1@mid.individual.net>:
>> 
>>> On 12/04/2026 01:09, Brock McNuggets - a Mac user - responded!
>>>> On Apr 11, 2026 at 2:33:38β€―PM MST, ""David B."" asked a question.
>>>> <n3vt1iF5j1aU1@mid.individual.net>:
>>> [....]
>>>>> Have YOU checked to see if YOU have past EtreCheck reports hidden here?
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do tell. Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> I have some there, but not hidden. Or maybe there are obvious ones and secret
>>>> hidden ones too! :)
>>> 
>>> Thank you for confirming that, Brock! πŸ™‚
>> 
>> Sure.
>>> 
>>> As you are well aware, most folk never look in their Library ...
>>>      ..... the one under "Go" in their Finder title bar.
>> 
>> Nor is thee any need.
>>> 
>>> Indeed, one has to press the "Option" key to display it. So, what *IS*
>>> shown there is effectively hidden. Agreed?
>> 
>> And not even always on option. Go to your Home folder and then View >Show View
>> Options
>> 
>> There is an option to show the Library folder. It will show in the Home
>> folder, but then it will NOT show in the "Go" menu even if you hold option.
>> 
>> But it is made less obvious by design... it is not something most users need
>> to go into.
> 
> That is a fair point regarding the View Options; it’s certainly a more
> permanent way to keep the folder visible for those who need frequent
> access to ~/Library.

Well, keeps it visible in the Library (which I knew) but I thought it kept it
visible in the Go menu... but it hides it from there even on Option. Either my
memory is wrong or Apple changed something in the last version or so. No
biggie.
> 
>>> OK
>>> 
>>> Please delete "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"
>>> 
>>> Restart your computer and then check that the above item has GONE!
>> 
>> If I reboot I will lose this message -- weakness of my client. So maybe later.
> 
> Have you raised this wit the developer of Usenapp?

I have not... though not a bad idea to do so.
> 
>> But I would expect them to be gone.
> 
> Pssst - they will be! ;-)

Good. Though with my issues with iCloud / macOS recently it might come back
(not likely -- that folder is not backed up on iCloud, but iCloud and my Mac
are NOT doing as they should!)
> 
>>> If it has gone, visit www.etrecheck.com, download and run Etrecheck
>> 
>> I have no desire to download and run it again... and you do not trust it so
>> why would you advise people to do this?
> 
> Simply to establish the truth.

You have already found it keeps logs in it Application Support folder. What
more are you looking for?
> 
>>> Review the report (share with us if you wish) - keep a copy in 'Notes'
>>> should you want to.
>>> 
>>> Then delete the EtreCheck report.
>>> 
>>> When appropriate, select the box saying that you do NOT want to save a
>>> copy. Send the report to your Bin and then empty your Bin.
>>> 
>>> All straight-forward!
>>> 
>>> Now go to "~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck"
>>> 
>>> Does the report you said that you did not wish to keep appear there?
>>> 
>>> If so ....... *WHY* is it there?!!!
>>> 
>>> Please advise.
>> 
>> Please stop focusing on EtreCheck.
> 
> The reason I suggest this specific sequence is to highlight a matter of
> user agency and data persistence.

It is hardly unique. I have not tested them all, but I bet other apps do much
the same. The issue here is not the app, but you digging into it in a vacuum
of understanding. You assume what you find is rare or bad but you have no clue
if it is normal or what the folder is even for. And then you make insinuations
of wrong doing.

Then you complain that the developer does not want to talk to you. At this
point he should get a restraining order so he can pursue legal avenues to stop
you.

PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

> If a user explicitly selects an option not to save a report, and then
> manually empties the Bin, one would logically expect that data to be
> gone. The discovery that EtreCheck may be silently archiving these
> reports in ~/Library/Application Support/EtreCheck regardless of the
> user's "do not save" preference is a technical observation worth noting.
> It isn't about whether one "trusts" the diagnostic capabilities of the
> tool, but rather how the software handles (or retains) user data behind
> the scenes.
> 
> The focus is currently there because it serves as a primary example of
> how "helper" utilities interact with the macOS filesystem in ways that
> aren't always transparent to the average user.
> 
> If you do eventually decide to check that directory after a run, I’d be
> interested to hear if your findings match what I’ve observed regarding
> those "unsaved" reports reappearing.

I have told you repeatedly I will not help you do anything that aids your
harassment of him. PLEASE LEAVE HIM ALONE!

-- 
It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.

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