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| From | Brock McNuggets <brock.mcnuggets@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: The hidden Library! (Was - Today's challenge!) |
| Organization | Southern Nevada Institute of Technology |
| References | <n0qntoF2nsU1@mid.individual.net> <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net> <69dd0efd$1$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n44i6pFrs22U1@mid.individual.net> |
| Date | 2026-04-13 16:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <69dd154f$0$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> (permalink) |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On Apr 13, 2026 at 8:59:20 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote <n44i6pFrs22U1@mid.individual.net>: > On 13/04/2026 16:42, Brock McNuggets wrote: >> On Apr 13, 2026 at 1:08:57 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote >> <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net>: >> >>> On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>>> Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu >>>> (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did >>>> it change? >>> >>> Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:- >>> >>> = >>> >>> This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime >>> users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu >>> behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings. >>> >>> The Behavior Change >>> >>> Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you >>> held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more >>> "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent >>> versions of macOS: >>> >>> The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it >>> appears in Go. >>> +1 >>> >>> The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options >>> (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes >>> permanently visible in your Home directory. >>> >>> The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you >>> have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS >>> often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but >>> simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut. >>> >>> When did it change? >>> While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in >>> release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around >>> macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia. >>> >>> The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the >>> Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden" >>> shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is >>> a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's >>> already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger. >>> >>> Summary for Brock: >>> Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder, >>> it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option. >>> >>> When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to >>> macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia). >>> >>> The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he >>> would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show >>> Library Folder." >>> >>> It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that >>> since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder, >>> you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar. >>> >>> How to show the hidden Library folder >>> This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option >>> key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for >>> understanding when and why the menu behavior might change. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU >>> >>> = >>> >>> HTH. 🙂 >> >> Thanks. Assuming this is right I still had minor nit picky details wrong, but >> close enough. :) > > You are welcome. It might even have been you who, years ago, helped me > find my way to the hidden Library files the first time I needed to go > there! ;-) Sounds familiar. I know I have pointed a number of people there. Where I might have been slightly wrong is thinking there was a macOS version where you could both see it in the Home folder AND Option+Go showed it. Seems both changes happened at the same time. -- It's impossible for someone who is at war with themselves to be at peace with you.
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