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| From | "David B." <David@hotmail.co.uk> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.computer.workshop, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, uk.comp.sys.mac |
| Subject | Re: The hidden Library! (Was - Today's challenge!) |
| Date | 2026-04-13 16:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n44i6pFrs22U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <n0qntoF2nsU1@mid.individual.net> <n42jciFig46U1@mid.individual.net> <69dc2535$2$24$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net> <69dd0efd$1$23$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
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On 13/04/2026 16:42, Brock McNuggets wrote: > On Apr 13, 2026 at 1:08:57 AM MST, ""David B."" wrote > <n43mkpFnke4U1@mid.individual.net>: > >> On 13/04/2026 00:05, Brock McNuggets wrote: >>> Do you know if I am correct about Library still showing in the menu >>> (with Option) even if it was set to show in the Home folder? If so, when did >>> it change? >> >> Here's what Gemini has to say about it! I hope this helps:- >> >> = >> >> This is a classic bit of macOS "logic" that has tripped up many longtime >> users. Brock is actually touching on a subtle change in how the Go menu >> behaves relative to the Home folder's visibility settings. >> >> The Behavior Change >> >> Historically, the Library would show up in the Go menu only when you >> held the Option key. However, the logic has become a bit more >> "intelligent" (or confusing, depending on your perspective) in recent >> versions of macOS: >> >> The Standard Way: By default, Library is hidden. You hold Option, it >> appears in Go. >> +1 >> >> The "Persistent" Way: If you go to your Home folder, open View Options >> (Command + J), and check Show Library Folder, the folder becomes >> permanently visible in your Home directory. >> >> The Menu Disappearance: In modern macOS (including Sequoia), once you >> have set the Library to be permanently visible in the Home folder, macOS >> often "promotes" it to a visible state in the file system but >> simultaneously hides it from the Go menu's Option-key shortcut. >> >> When did it change? >> While Apple doesn't always document these "quality of life" tweaks in >> release notes, this behavior began to surface more consistently around >> macOS Ventura and has carried through to Sonoma and Sequoia. >> >> The logic seems to be: If the user has explicitly chosen to show the >> Library folder in their Home directory, they no longer need a "hidden" >> shortcut to find it. Essentially, the Option-key trick in the Go menu is >> a "reveal" function; if there is nothing left to reveal because it's >> already visible, the menu item often doesn't trigger. >> >> Summary for Brock: >> Is he correct? Yes. If the Library is set to "Show" in the Home folder, >> it frequently stops appearing in the Go menu, even when holding Option. >> >> When did it change? The shift became prominent with the transition to >> macOS 13 (Ventura) and remains the case in macOS 15 (Sequoia). >> >> The Irony: To get the Library back in the Go menu via the Option key, he >> would actually have to go back into View Options and uncheck "Show >> Library Folder." >> >> It's one of those "helpful" Apple features where the system assumes that >> since you've made the folder a first-class citizen in your Home folder, >> you'll just click it there instead of using the menu bar. >> >> How to show the hidden Library folder >> This short video demonstrates the traditional method of using the Option >> key to reveal the Library folder, which serves as a helpful baseline for >> understanding when and why the menu behavior might change. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IQSnbtSVeU >> >> = >> >> HTH. 🙂 > > Thanks. Assuming this is right I still had minor nit picky details wrong, but > close enough. :) You are welcome. It might even have been you who, years ago, helped me find my way to the hidden Library files the first time I needed to go there! ;-) -- Kind regards, David
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