Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From	"James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Subject	Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution
Date	2017-04-21 15:46 +0100
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Message-ID	<op.yy1vcaa4js98qf@red.lan> (permalink)
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:40:57 +0100, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <op.yy1usmdyjs98qf@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
> <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>
>> >> >> >> > As for making prints look just like those from a 35mm camera, that
>> >> >> >> > sort of degradation is easily done with software.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I take it you didn't have a professional SLR 35mm camera.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > film is worse than digital in every metric.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > digital can be downgraded to look like film if the user wants, but
>> >> >> > that
>> >> >> > would be stupid if quality is the goal.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Decent film is as good as digital.
>> >> >
>> >> > definitely not.
>> >> >
>> >> >> I mean professional quality low ASA
>> >> >> film on a camera with a good lens.
>> >> >
>> >> > doesn't matter.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe not nowadays, digital improves all the time.
>> >
>> > digital has been better than film for well over a decade.
>>
>> I'd have rated a professional film camera at about 6MP.
>
> 6 mp cameras were common over a decade ago.

Probably, I have a bad concept of time.  I once tried to return a 3 year old VCR under a 1 year warranty.

I had a £3000 (DSLR with two lenses) that was 6MP.  I thought that was about 6 years ago, probably more.

> it also depends on the film too.
>
>> Don't ever get a Fuji digital camera, they LIE about the MP.
>
> no they don't.

Oh they do.  I have a compact digital from them which claims 10MP.  It's easy to see it's only a quarter of that when you zoom in in Photoshop.  They use software interpolation inside the camera, the CCD is not 10MP.  It's a Finepix S1000FD if you want to check.

> the only company that lies about the number of megapixels is sigma.

Only ever used their lenses, which are good.

-- 
I met this gal in a bar and one thing lead to another.  I said, "Let's go back to my place."
She said, "Oh, do you have cable?"
I said, "No, but I have some old ropes that should do just fine."

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 19:06 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 14:45 -0400
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 13:01 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:13 -0400
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:21 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:32 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:35 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:40 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:46 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:04 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:28 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:39 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:41 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 18:47 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 13:56 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:01 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 11:22 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 19:56 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:09 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:23 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:20 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:34 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:48 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:54 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:04 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:05 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:08 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:30 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:09 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:53 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 18:43 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:19 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:59 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:11 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 17:03 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:07 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 17:26 -0700
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 13:22 -0700
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 21:52 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 14:50 -0700
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-19 18:55 +0100

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