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| From | "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech |
| Subject | Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution |
| Date | 2017-04-19 18:55 +0100 |
| Organization | ~ |
| Message-ID | <op.yyyeq5odjs98qf@red.lan> (permalink) |
| References | (15 earlier) <201704111720307730-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <op.yyq0lri0js98qf@red.lan> <2017041513224348762-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <op.yyq8abkbjs98qf@red.lan> <2017041514500270776-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
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On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:50:02 +0100, wrote: > On 2017-04-15 20:52:49 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" > <imvalid@somewear.com> said: > >> On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:22:43 +0100, wrote: >> >>> On 2017-04-15 18:06:53 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" >>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said: >>> >>>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:20:30 +0100, wrote: >>>>> On 2017-04-12 00:04:23 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" >>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said: >>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:50:14 +0100, wrote: >>>>>>> On 2017-04-11 22:34:22 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" >>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:29:57 +0100, wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2017-04-11 22:07:10 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" >>>>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said: >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 22:43:47 +0100, wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2017-04-11 21:23:38 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" >>>>>>>>>>> <imvalid@somewear.com> said: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:12:54 +0100, Mark Lloyd <not@mail.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 04/10/2017 07:09 PM, nospam wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's cyan. it's not light blue. that's why it's called cyan ink and not >>>>>>>>>>>>>> light blue ink. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I used to have a printer with SIX ink cartridges. IIRC they were cyan, >>>>>>>>>>>>> light cyan, magenta, light magenta, yellow, black. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mine has NO ink cartridges. You actually buy a new little plastic >>>>>>>>>>>> container all the time? I have huge tanks sat on the desk beside it. >>>>>>>>>>>> When one looks a bit low, I pour some in from a bottle. Equivalent to >>>>>>>>>>>> 3p (4c) a cartridge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So you don't give a damn when it comes to color printing? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Why would having the ink in a different container change the colour output?! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For many good photo printers you will usually find 6 or more inks. My >>>>>>>>>>> Epson uses 8 UltraChrome K3 inks; Photo Black, Light Black, Light Light >>>>>>>>>>> Black, Yellow, Vivid Magenta, Vivid Light Magenta, Cyan, Light Cyan, >>>>>>>>>>> and when using matte paper Photo Black is exchanged for Matte Black. >>>>>>>>>>> The newer photo printers user 10 tanks. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> And it makes no difference at all to the output. All you need is >>>>>>>>>> decent paper and fine ink nozzles. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ...and a color managed workflow with a properly calibrated system. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Printer manufacturers must love you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ...and yet I can produce superb color prints from my dedicated Epson >>>>>>> photo printer, and fairly good color prints from my general purpose >>>>>>> Epson "all-in-one" printer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What do you use for your photo prints? >>>>>> >>>>>> An Epson with 4 colours, on decent paper, in the mode with the highest >>>>>> resolution. They look just like photos from a 35mm camera done in a >>>>>> professional lab. >>>>> >>>>> An Epson 4 color printer is going to give you acceptable, sometimes >>>>> very good color prints, but in no way the best photo reproduction. My >>>>> general document and occasional photo printer is an Epson XP-610, a 4 >>>>> color printer capable of producing good photo prints no larger than >>>>> 8"x10". However, there is no comparison when I compare what it produces >>>>> against my 8 color photo printer, especially when using high quality >>>>> papers, and matching printer/paper specific icc profiles in my color >>>>> managed workflow. >>>> >>>> If I set mine to maximum quality (which takes fucking ages) it's >>>> perfect quality. >>> >>> "Perfect quality", whatever that means out of a 4 color printer. When >>> it comes to photography, especially color photography and the resulting >>> prints, the results are always subjective, and an opinion of "perfect >>> quality" is going to be just as subjective. So if what you produce is >>> good enough for your eye, just go ahead. I am working to attain a >>> different level of "perfect quality" to yours. >> >> It's as good as my monitor, which is indistinguishable from the >> original scenes I photographed. >> >>>>> As for making prints look just like those from a 35mm camera, that sort >>>>> of degradation is easily done with software. >>>> >>>> I take it you didn't have a professional SLR 35mm camera. >>> >>> WTF is a professional SLR 35mm camera? >> >> What a ridiculous question. Ask a journalist who wasn't born this century. > > I was curious as to what you thought was a "profesional SLR 35mm > Camera". I know what I would have considered a Pro 35mm SLR in the > 1960's. I thought you were implying there was no such thing. >>> I haven't shot 35mm film for years now, especially since APS-C, FF, and >>> MF digital has exceeded 35mm film in all respects. In all respects that >>> is, except for those folks refusing to accept that ugly truth because >>> they are locked into Kodachrome nostalgia. >> >> I used 35mm before digital was invented. > > So what? I started shooting 35mm with my father's C3 in the 1950's. I > got my first 35mm SLR in 1963 and two more after that. I still have my > last Pentax. I bought my rangefinder 35mm in 1968 when I was in the > Army. I still have that. I was simply pointing out I didn't use it in preference to digital. >> The main reason I stopped wasn't quality, it was the ability to take >> 1000s of photos without taking out a second mortgage or constantly >> reloading film. > > Quality, darkroom chemicals, and film/processing costs. > >> I'd go to a racetrack day and take 5000 photos on digital (motorbikes >> are bloody fast and it's easier to take 10 rapid shots as each one >> passes). > > Been there, done that. > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/5f6xbgibt5bmvmd/DNC5067-Edit.jpg> > <https://www.dropbox.com/s/fi39trnaoroj2st/DNC_4900-Edit.jpg> Nice. -- How does a Welshman find a sheep in tall grass? Very satisfying.
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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 19:06 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-15 14:45 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 13:01 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:13 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:21 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:32 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:35 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:40 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:46 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:04 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:11 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:28 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:39 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:41 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 18:47 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 13:56 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:01 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:11 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:21 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 11:22 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 19:56 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:09 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:23 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:20 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:34 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 13:22 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-15 21:52 +0100
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-15 14:50 -0700
Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-19 18:55 +0100
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