Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.cellular-phone-tech
Date	2017-04-23 11:22 -0700
Message-ID	<2017042311221085132-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink)
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Subject	Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution

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On 2017-04-23 17:47:39 +0000, "James Wilkinson Sword" 
<imvalid@somewear.com> said:

> On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:41:31 +0100, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In article <op.yy1xrgjwjs98qf@red.lan>, James Wilkinson Sword
>> <imvalid@somewear.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> >> >> >> Don't ever get a Fuji digital camera, they LIE about the MP.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > no they don't.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Oh they do.  I have a compact digital from them which claims 10MP.  It's
>>> >> >> easy
>>> >> >> to see it's only a quarter of that when you zoom in in Photoshop.  They
>>> >> >> use
>>> >> >> software interpolation inside the camera, the CCD is not 10MP.  It's a
>>> >> >> Finepix S1000FD if you want to check.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > that's a 10 mp camera, creating photos with 3648 x 2736 pixels.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > <http://www.fujifilm.com/support/digital_cameras/specifications/s/finepi
>>> >> > x_s1000fd/>
>>> >>
>>> >> So it says.  Now find some output from one and zoom in.
>>> >
>>> > it's 10 mp. it is not upsampled. there are no lies.
>>> 
>>> Show me an output from one that is a true 10MP, because mine certainly does
>>> not produce 10MP, more like 2.5.  And I can't see that being a fault.  And I
>>> can't see them accidentally fitting the wrong CCD.
>> 
>> why do you think it's 2.5?
>> 
>> the output is 3648 x 2736 pixels, which is 10 mp (actually 9980928).
>> zooming in will show each individual pixel. there is no upsampling.
> 
> Because every single photo I've taken with it does not have 1 unique 
> pixel per pixel of the image.  My Canon EOS 10D does.  The Fuji 
> produces pictures which look perfect when zoomed out 1:2 (which is 4 
> times less pixels that it should have).
> 
> Here's an example taken with the same Fuji model by someone else.   
> Download the "original size" and view it at 1:1, and note it has 
> nowhere near enough detail to be as good as your monitor can show.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/7726760@N08/2615523533/sizes/o/
> 
> Find me an example which does....

I wouldn't know about that particular Fujifilm camera, but here is an 
uncropped 3264 x 4896 JPEG taken with an X-E2.
<https://www.dropbox.com/s/ho4tzfi4k2w15dg/_DSF4091.jpg>

-- 
Regards,

Savageduck

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Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 13:01 +0100
  Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:13 -0400
    Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:21 +0100
      Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:32 -0400
        Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:35 +0100
          Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 10:40 -0400
            Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 15:46 +0100
              Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:04 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:28 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-21 16:39 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-21 11:41 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 18:47 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 13:56 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:01 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:21 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 11:22 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 19:56 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:05 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 20:09 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 15:16 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:23 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 12:20 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-23 21:20 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 16:34 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 14:34 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:48 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 16:54 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 19:58 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:04 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:05 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:08 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:12 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 15:47 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:30 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:09 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:11 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:17 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 20:53 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 18:43 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-04-23 22:01 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 19:03 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2017-04-24 09:58 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 09:29 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:19 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 15:46 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> - 2017-04-24 11:05 -0400
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 16:18 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Rene Lamontagne <rlamont@shaw.ca> - 2017-04-24 10:10 -0500
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 16:19 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-24 09:31 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 00:59 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-23 17:11 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 17:03 -0700
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution "James Wilkinson Sword" <imvalid@somewear.com> - 2017-04-24 01:07 +0100
                Re: Apple told to warn against charging phone in bath after man's electrocution Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-04-23 17:26 -0700

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