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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system, misc.phone.mobile.iphone |
| Date | 2015-09-19 08:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2015091908305766930-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <55fcf537$0$1638$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <2015091822544139911-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> <55fd040b$0$1657$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <190920150256445090%nospam@nospam.invalid> <ls-dnTwrCIaZ8mDInZ2dnUU7-L-dnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| Subject | Re: OT: The other Apple Drive |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 2015-09-19 14:19:47 +0000, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> said: > On 2015-09-19 02:56, nospam wrote: >> In article <55fd040b$0$1657$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter >> <patty1@wintertime.com> wrote: >> >>>> BTW: Both Yosemite and Tahoe in the winter, (between storms) are great. >>>> Sequoia, not so much. Just don't get caught on I-80 or CA-50 in a storm >>>> when the chain advisaries are in effect. >>> >>> Not a problem with a 4WD car with snow tires. >> >> or any car with snow tires. > > When it comes to advancing out of slippery (icy or compacted snow) > conditions, no 2WD car can beat a 4 WD car. Conditions that will keep > a 2WD car stuck will often be a piece of cake for a 4WD. > > Subaru's are unusually popular in VT for that reason as well as certain > wealthy areas of Montreal on steep hills where one sees 'benzes and > beamers most of the year - they're put away on snowy, icy days to let > the Subaru out. Hence the CalTrans Chain Control regulations which depend on actual road and weather condition. Occasionally they shut down some highways until the plows can clear things: R1: Chains, traction devices or snow tires are required on the drive axle of all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles. R2: Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles except four wheel/ all wheel drive vehicles with snow-tread tires on all four wheels. (NOTE: Four wheel/all wheel drive vehicles must carry traction devices in chain control areas.) R3: Chains or traction devices are required on all vehicles, no exceptions. > >>> You get to stay in your >>> warm car and drive by the people who are crawling on their bellies in >>> the slush to install chains. I've done it. It's fun. :-) >> >> 4wd does not trump the laws of physics and those who know how to drive >> in snow can drive past the idiots in 4wd who ran off the road. -- Regards, Savageduck
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OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-18 18:01 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-18 18:33 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-18 19:00 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 16:19 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-18 19:52 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 17:26 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-18 20:55 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 18:09 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 05:40 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 22:54 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 06:43 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 02:56 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 00:18 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 06:56 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 05:05 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 10:19 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 08:30 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 18:25 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 22:38 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 18:54 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 19:07 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 10:18 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 14:35 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:02 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-21 09:02 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-20 16:05 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 12:32 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 18:49 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-09-20 10:36 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 14:51 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 12:19 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:57 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 12:30 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 16:38 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 13:20 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 17:39 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 13:49 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 20:34 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 17:24 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 15:38 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 22:42 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-09-20 10:40 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-09-19 21:00 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 12:37 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 20:28 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-19 19:43 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-09-19 15:46 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 18:30 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 14:36 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:07 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-19 06:59 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 10:13 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 08:20 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-19 16:49 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 18:29 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 14:34 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 01:28 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 22:45 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-19 18:05 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 16:35 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 23:56 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-19 17:29 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 12:15 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 04:54 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 12:23 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-19 13:24 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 13:52 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-20 09:43 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-19 16:52 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 17:10 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-20 14:08 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 00:08 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 14:48 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-20 16:52 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 10:23 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 14:34 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 14:44 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 14:58 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-20 08:05 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 15:51 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 13:20 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 16:02 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 06:19 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 13:47 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 07:57 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-21 09:12 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 17:19 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-20 16:07 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 16:38 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-20 17:40 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 18:57 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-21 06:15 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-21 09:23 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-09-22 05:12 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 07:32 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-21 07:48 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-21 13:15 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 21:23 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-21 16:07 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 07:31 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-21 17:08 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 23:12 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 22:56 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 19:23 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 23:43 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:20 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 07:42 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 20:18 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-21 02:51 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:25 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 15:52 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:00 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 12:49 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 04:47 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Jim Gibson <JimSGibson@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 16:58 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-20 14:38 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 11:19 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 13:18 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 10:46 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-19 22:37 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 08:53 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 19:46 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-19 16:57 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-19 20:37 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-19 17:50 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 11:20 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-20 11:16 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-20 14:16 +1200
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 10:20 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 12:34 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 09:39 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 13:39 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-20 10:50 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 04:53 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 16:50 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 08:37 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-20 19:21 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 09:56 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-20 16:03 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-09-21 04:39 +1000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-20 18:50 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 16:15 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-18 17:49 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 18:18 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-09-18 21:24 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-18 18:49 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-09-18 18:54 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-09-18 17:35 -0700
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-09-19 11:16 +0000
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2015-09-19 10:04 -0400
Re: OT: The other Apple Drive Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-09-19 13:20 +1200
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