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Re: Re: Naughty C♯

From cross@spitfire.i.gajendra.net (Dan Cross)
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Re: Naughty C♯
Date 2026-01-06 17:50 +0000
Organization PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC
Message-ID <10jji08$8cd$1@reader2.panix.com> (permalink)
References <CtydnVqzjrtfd5P0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <10jiufh$1an77$1@paganini.bofh.team> <10jjc9s$3uhtk$1@dont-email.me> <10jjgju$5l5$3@dont-email.me>

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In article <10jjgju$5l5$3@dont-email.me>,
The Natural Philosopher  <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 06/01/2026 16:12, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Waldek Hebisch wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>> 
>>> In alt.folklore.computers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>>    Hmm ... look at all the GNU 'compilers' -
>>>>    FORTRAN, COBOL, Ada, 'D', M2, Rust,C++,
>>>>    G++, even Algol-68. None are 'compilers'
>>>>    per-se, but to-'C' TRANSLATORS. So, 'C',
>>>>    pretty much All Are One And One Is All.
>>>
>>> No.  Compiler as first stage translate given language to a
>>> common representation.  This representatiton is different
>>> than C.  Ada and GNU Pascal have parametrized types, there
>>> is nothing like that in C.
>>>
>>> <interjection>
>>>
>>> C++ (and some other languages)
>>> have exceptions, C do not have them.
>> 
>> What about setjmp()/longjmp() ?
> 
>Exactly. The problem with making high level 'features' in a language is 
>people then don't see how they actually work.

What an odd take.

The point of programming is to write programs.  The point of
maintenance is to make sure those programs continue working over
time as technology and environments change.  C (and for that
matter Unix) were invented to make writing and maintaining
programs easier than the techniques that had been used up to
that point, not to elucidate the implementation.  This idea of
C as some kind of glorified "high-level" assembler hasn't been
true since we started to see optimizing compilers in the 1970s.

>One of the worst features of C libs is malloc() and free() where the 
>underlying mechanism is opaque.

...because it is utterly irrelevant to 99.99% of programs.

If you want to see how it works under the hood, go look up the
system interface.  But if done properly, that's independent of
the user application language.  Or, if you can, read the library
source if you want to see how `malloc` is implemented: this is
one of the benefits of open source software.

The claim that `malloc` is bad because it hides the details of
memory management is just silly.  stdio hides the details of
blocks, buffer caches, bus acceses, DMA, asynchronous descriptor
queues, IO devices and their access mechanisms, and so on, from
programmers.  Because, again, it's totally irrelevant for _most_
programs.  Is that similarly bad?

>auto allocation and garbage collection is even worse.
>
>Also operator overloading and weak  typing.
>
>You simply do not know where you are.

Most programmers don't know that stuff anyway.  Most have no
idea how their program is loaded into memory or starts running,
how the platform is initialized, the implementation of the sorts
of abstractions that the OS provides, and so on.

>It's all fearfully clever ins a smart alec sort of way but it makes for 
>a lot of problems downstream...

Nonsense.

	- Dan C.

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                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-22 19:20 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-22 21:43 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 00:23 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-23 02:17 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-23 09:42 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-23 14:59 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 13:09 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 22:57 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-23 02:56 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-22 20:18 -0700
                Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 01:45 +0000
                Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-11-23 18:06 -0800
                Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-24 02:13 +0000
                Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-11-24 02:23 +0000
                Re: typing in the mysterious East, Recent history of vi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-11-24 04:56 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 19:55 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:08 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:37 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:56 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:58 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 15:40 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-03 07:39 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:46 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:28 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:38 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-12-16 02:20 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 02:52 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 11:53 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 17:42 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-17 10:39 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 23:34 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Diego Garcia <dg@linux.rocks> - 2025-12-03 14:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-05 20:52 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-05 15:57 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:42 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:58 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:22 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-06 19:51 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-06 15:13 -0700
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-06 22:28 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 01:39 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 06:19 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-06 22:50 -0800
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-07 10:52 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-22 12:02 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:34 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:02 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:41 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-16 07:39 -0700
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 15:57 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:13 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2025-12-07 16:58 +0000
                Re: polyglot programming, Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 00:00 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:48 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-07 00:38 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:31 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:18 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-07 19:39 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:27 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:46 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:53 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 22:25 -0800
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:48 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:43 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:56 +0000
                Re: more polyglot programming, was Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:31 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 16:31 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:49 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-07 19:12 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 12:14 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:26 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:05 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:46 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:39 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:07 -0500
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:15 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:54 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:55 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:41 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-07 14:30 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 03:12 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 11:52 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:23 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:54 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-07 14:25 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:25 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:26 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 12:15 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-08 16:13 -0500
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:19 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 00:08 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:58 +0000
                Greek origins of Christian scriptures [was Re: Recent history of vi] Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-07 18:17 -0500
                Re: Recent history of vi Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:35 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:34 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:23 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:10 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-09 04:25 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2025-12-09 04:47 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:16 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:59 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:55 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-10 19:34 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-12 16:13 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:51 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-14 04:57 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:21 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:21 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:52 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:38 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-08 07:38 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 06:59 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:35 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-08 16:35 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:54 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:41 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:07 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:52 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-11 20:54 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:57 +0000
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-12 02:01 +0000
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 02:27 +0000
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:28 +0100
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:43 -0800
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:25 +0000
                Re: linguistic hegemony, was Recent history of vi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-12-12 09:35 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 09:57 +0100
                EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-12 09:53 +0000
                Re: EU (was: Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 11:51 +0100
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:54 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 19:26 +0000
                Re: EU Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-13 12:01 +0100
                Re: EU Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-20 00:23 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:34 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:59 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 21:34 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:24 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:47 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:57 +0000
                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-17 13:27 +0100
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:05 -0500
                Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-17 07:34 -0500
                Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-16 12:42 -0500
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 18:14 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:55 +0000
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 20:05 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:30 +0000
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-16 23:15 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:49 +0000
                Re: EU Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-17 07:32 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 18:53 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:06 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:33 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:02 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:18 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:03 -0500
                Re: EU "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 23:26 +0100
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:29 -0500
                Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-18 17:28 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:32 -0500
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-19 10:47 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 19:30 +0000
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 20:01 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:03 +0000
                Re: EU John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-19 14:08 -0800
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-19 22:33 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-20 05:12 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-20 20:45 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:41 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 01:00 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 07:06 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 02:21 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-22 19:06 +0000
                Re: EU Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-22 14:41 -0800
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:59 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 19:47 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 21:18 +0000
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-23 22:38 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 23:32 +0000
                Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-24 10:24 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 12:36 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-23 23:27 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 23:40 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-24 07:02 +0000
                Re: EU "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-24 10:32 +0000
                Re: EU Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-24 15:04 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-24 23:28 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-23 01:21 -0500
                Re: EU scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-12-22 16:38 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-22 17:33 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-20 01:20 -0500
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-20 10:39 +0000
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:10 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-21 14:29 -0500
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                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 20:52 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 00:59 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 03:07 +0000
                Re: EU c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 00:04 -0500
                Re: EU rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 07:43 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:30 +0000
                Re: EU Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-16 05:54 +0000
                Re: EU The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:25 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:53 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-12 20:27 +0100
                Yes,{, Prime} Minister (was: Re: Recent history of vi) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 23:27 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2025-12-13 15:55 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-15 15:44 -0800
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 01:59 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:22 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:18 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:45 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 10:14 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:02 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 20:13 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-17 13:59 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-17 07:06 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-10 23:06 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:14 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-07 22:56 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
                Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 00:32 +0000
                Re: Unicode (was Re: Recent history of vi) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:32 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-15 10:52 +0100
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:14 +0000
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-12-05 11:45 +0000
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 10:35 +0000
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:05 +0100
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2025-12-06 16:41 +0100
                Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-12-08 18:40 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-22 20:25 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:02 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:16 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:18 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:38 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-12-04 07:15 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-19 02:37 +0100
                ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Michael Bäuerle <michael.baeuerle@stz-e.de> - 2025-11-19 14:58 +0100
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") (was: Recent history of vi) Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2025-11-20 02:09 +0000
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-19 20:16 -0700
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 08:47 +0000
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-20 11:10 +0000
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-20 17:57 +0000
                Re: ISO 8859-1 ("Latin 1") Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@gmx.de> - 2025-11-21 12:24 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-19 13:02 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) - 2025-11-23 16:25 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Eric Pozharski <apple.universe@posteo.net> - 2025-11-25 10:26 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:05 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-25 23:04 -0500
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-11-27 20:10 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2025-11-27 20:19 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Johnny Billquist <bqt@softjar.se> - 2025-12-03 13:44 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 20:44 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-11-28 07:54 -0500
                Re: Recent history of vi Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-11-28 22:10 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi David Goodwin <david+usenet@zx.net.nz> - 2025-11-29 13:13 +1300
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:57 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:35 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:45 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-11-29 15:06 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:20 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-11-29 12:45 -0700
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:37 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 11:06 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:20 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 08:54 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-13 08:22 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-13 11:55 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 14:44 +0000
                Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 23:35 +0100
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:48 +0000
                Re: Python drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2025-12-14 20:00 +0000
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:43 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:40 -0500
                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:48 +0000
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 21:43 +0000
                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:45 +0000
                Re: Python The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:44 +0000
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 22:17 +0000
                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-15 23:55 +0000
                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:57 +0100
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:27 -0500
                Re: Python Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-12-14 11:56 +0000
                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:29 +0000
                Re: Python mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2025-12-15 12:57 +0000
                Re: Python Alexander Schreiber <als@usenet.thangorodrim.de> - 2025-12-15 22:57 +0100
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:31 -0500
                Re: Python Greg Ewing <greg.ewing@canterbury.ac.nz> - 2025-12-16 17:51 +1300
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 08:32 +0000
                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:45 +0000
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:54 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 03:11 -0500
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 19:17 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 22:10 -0500
                Re: Python John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-18 03:28 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 23:02 -0500
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:54 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-18 04:25 -0500
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 19:22 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 01:14 -0500
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 06:44 +0000
                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 07:40 -0700
                Re: Python Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-18 18:00 +0000
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-18 18:28 +0000
                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2025-12-18 12:52 -0700
                Re: Python rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 03:53 +0000
                Re: Python c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 00:37 -0500
                Re: Python "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2026-03-04 10:32 -0600
                Re: Python ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2026-03-04 20:01 +0000
                Re: Python "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-03-04 21:29 +0100
                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 20:37 +0000
                Re: Python Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-03-04 14:09 -0700
                Re: Python Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-03-04 22:35 +0000
                Re: Python Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-04 23:10 +0000

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