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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Recent history of vi |
| Date | 2025-12-08 08:21 +0000 |
| Organization | A little, after lunch |
| Message-ID | <10h61qm$dbs$3@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <slrn10jb7eb.17aag.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de> <mpm0h0Fi256U3@mid.individual.net> <IkkZQ.697$k6W8.76@fx34.iad> <10h4noh$3n4no$4@dont-email.me> <slrn10jbtsk.1c8f5.als@mordor.angband.thangorodrim.de> |
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On 07/12/2025 21:54, Alexander Schreiber wrote: > The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 07/12/2025 19:12, Scott Lurndal wrote: >>> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes: >>>> On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote: >>> >>>> Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He >>>> questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin >>>> because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had limited >>>> utility in later life. >>> >>> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for starters, >>> and it certainly helps when subsequently learning latin-derived (Romance) languages. >> >> The point about Latin and Greek is that all science mathematics, >> philosophy and the bible used to be written in it because it was that >> language of an educated European. > > The bible was not written in Latin because that was the language of an > educated European, it was written in Latin because that was the language > the clergy (from the lowest monk to the pope) learned and spoke i.e the language of the educated European... > and it > conventiently was a language that most of the people didn't speak, so > they needed the clergy as "interpreters". One of the reasons why the > Church was so much after Martin Luther, because he enabled the common > people (yes, reading was still a limited distribution skill, but reading > the native language was far, far more common than understanding Latin) > to read "the word of God" themselves. Rather inconvient for the clergy > trying to remain gatekeepers ... > Bit like the EU today isn't it? >> Today it tends to be English. > > Used to be German for a lot of engineering and science, especially > chemistry, but then some idiots started that WW1 nonsense. > >> As someone remarked 'It's hard to teach >> geology in Afrikaans' and I was unsuccessful in translating engineering >> terms into Zulu. > > I assume the biggest point was boot-strapping the concepts into a > language that didn't have much use for them before for historical > reasons? > Well that, and the absence of text books. >> My nephew is completely bi lingual. and I asked him whether he read Kant >> in the German. >> 'No' he said ' the English translations are clearer.' > > Eh, philosophers have a tendency to not be the clearest writers ... > > Kind regards, > Alex. -- Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is that they are dead. Sheri S Tepper: The Awakeners.
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