Re: Recent history of vi

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Recent history of vi
Date	2025-12-07 19:44 +0000
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2025 19:12:40 GMT, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> rbowman <bowman@montana.com> writes:
>>On Sun, 7 Dec 2025 16:31:23 +0100, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
> 
>>Semi-apropos I was reading an essay by Herbert Spencer last night. He
>>questioned the British educational system that taught Greek and Latin
>>because that's what 'educated' people learned even though they had
>>limited utility in later life.
> 
> Latin is useful for several reasons; it helps make sense of english, for
> starters, and it certainly helps when subsequently learning
> latin-derived (Romance) languages.

Nothing can make sense of English :) I'm glad I'm a native speaker. Latin 
does help a bit with Spanish. French is sui generis.

I doubt Latin is taught in high school anymore, even in parochial schools. 
We used to argue about pronunciation with the kids from Catholic High. 
Anyway, that was the program for college entrance students -- two years of 
Latin followed by two of a modern language, German for STEM types, French 
for liberal arts. The shop/business kids took Spanish. All in all fluency 
in Spanish would have been more useful in my life.

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