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Re: Recent history of vi

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Recent history of vi
Date 2025-12-10 13:43 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <10hbtd7$1heop$3@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 10/12/2025 12:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2025-12-08 22:07, Rich Alderson wrote:
>> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> Also they lisped as much as the Spanish back in the day and ff was 
>>> equated to
>>> 'ss'
>>
>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrongity-wrong-wrong.
>>
>> The so-called "long s" may, but need not, have a serif on the left 
>> hand side of
>> the midpoint of the vertical.
>>
>> The "f" must have a crossbar at the midpoint of the vertical.
>>
>> They are not, and at the time they were in use were never confused as,
>> identical to each other.
>>
>> In point of fact, most grade school classrooms (from 3rd grade on) 
>> when I was a
>> child had a frieze displaying the cursive alphabet above the 
>> black/chalkboards.
>> In addition to the variants of "t" and "r", there were two ways to write
>> non-capital "s", the little short squiggle and one that resembled the
>> non-capital "f" except that the loop below the line came up from the left
>> rather than from the right.  We were expected to use that in the 
>> interiors of
>> words in penmanship practice.
>>
>> So it wasn't that long ago.
>>
> 
> Interesting.
> 
> Bur fortunately for those of us who learned English as a second 
> language, all that is gone :-)
> 
> Otherwise, English would not be that successful as an international 
> exchange language, methinks.
> 
> 
That is why they stripped out nearly all the thngs like œ and æ and ß


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                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:38 +0000
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                Re: Recent history of vi "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:38 +0100
                Re: Recent history of vi rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 02:03 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:49 +0000
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              Re: Recent history of vi The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:18 +0000
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  Re: Unicode, not Recent history of vi John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2025-12-05 01:59 +0000
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