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Re: Java vs C++

From Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Java vs C++
Followup-To comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2011-02-08 20:31 +1300
Organization Geek Central
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In message <4d50b4dc$0$32795$c30e37c6@exi-reader.telstra.net>, Esmond Pitt 
wrote:

> On 8/02/2011 1:57 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>
>> DOS/Windows is the only reason 8086/80286 segmented architectures became
>> popular.
> 
> That's not what the guys at Intel think, or the guys at Motorola either.
> They will tell you that despite its ugliness at the point of code
> generation the Intel segmented architecture yielded very significant
> cost and performance benefits that basically drove Motorola out of the
> market.

Intel had the volume advantage, that’s all. And it got the volume from 
DOS/Windows, nothing else.

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