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Re: Java vs C++

Date	2011-02-08 16:51 +1100
From	Esmond Pitt <esmond.pitt@bigpond.com>
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Subject	Re: Java vs C++
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On 8/02/2011 2:17 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> In that case, they went backwards. Because the whole “raw types” concept
> detracts from and weakens the coherence of the type system.

It provides backwards compatibility. Without that the product would be 
unusable. It is possible to wish that the entire product was designed at 
the same time, but it wasn't. In any case your contention was mistaken.

The designers also went forwards a very considerable distance by 
providing generic classes that have provable type relationships among 
them. C++ simply doesn't have that. You need to stop overlooking this point.

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Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-07 15:53 +1300
  Re: Java vs C++ Andreas Leitgeb <avl@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at> - 2011-02-08 10:25 +0000
    Re: Java vs C++ Lew <noone@lewscanon.com> - 2011-02-08 07:53 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Esmond Pitt <esmond.pitt@bigpond.com> - 2011-02-08 10:26 +1100
    Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-08 16:17 +1300
      Re: Java vs C++ Esmond Pitt <esmond.pitt@bigpond.com> - 2011-02-08 16:51 +1100
  Re: Java vs C++ Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-06 22:06 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ "Mike Schilling" <mscottschilling@hotmail.com> - 2011-02-06 22:42 -0800
  Re: Java vs C++ Joshua Cranmer <Pidgeot18@verizon.invalid> - 2011-02-07 21:20 -0500
  Re: Java vs C++ Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2011-02-06 22:07 -0500
    Re: Java vs C++ Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@geek-central.gen.new_zealand> - 2011-02-07 19:07 +1300

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