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| From | mausg@mail.com |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: Computers anyone? |
| Date | 2016-03-10 11:52 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnne2nvc.199.mausg@smaus.org> (permalink) |
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On 2016-03-10, Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> wrote: > On 09-Mar-16 16:38, J. Clarke wrote: >> In article <4qidnScPE9p74X3LnZ2dnUU7-eOdnZ2d@giganews.com>, >> jmelson@wustl.edu says... >>> Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >>>> [John Boyd] used it to re-design the F-15, changing it from an >>>> 80,000-pound, swing-wing, sluggish behemoth, to a 40,000-pound >>>> fixed-wing, high-performance, maneuvering fighter. >>> >>> Uhh, the Navy's F-14 was swing wing, the F-15 is fixed. >> >> Note that that particular "sluggish behemoth" ... > > I think you both misread the above; what I see is that _before_ Boyd got > involved, the F-15's design was bad, but he used "it" (whatever that > meant in context) to make the design much better. > >> ... is so fearsome that one lighting off its radar will ground whole >> third-world air forces and when it was removed from service every >> single aircraft in the inventory was destroyed lest the one third- >> world air force that had a few of them get spare parts and thus do >> untold damage to the supposedly vastly superior lightweight fighters >> that can't force it to engage, can't run away from it, and can't >> shoot at it until long after it has killed them. > > The F-15 was indeed a fearsome fighter; the F-22 is better, and a few > later MiGs could match it, but nothing else can even touch it, and yes, > we don't want anyone else to have them--not even our allies. > Article about Uk destroyers, which use US technology, in intermittent service with the Royal navy, in "Private Eye" magazine. If any paart that is designated `secret' by the US goes wrong, it can only be repaired, replaaced by US personnel. So, if a part ggoes wrong, can take a while to fix it. -- greymaus . . ...
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