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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: Gravity and light question |
| Date | 2016-07-19 15:08 -0500 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <nmm1cd$ja8$1@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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On 7/19/2016 2:43 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote: > On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:39:00 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >> On 7/19/2016 2:30 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 12:19:08 PM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>> On 7/19/2016 2:11 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:58:10 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>> On 7/19/2016 1:51 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:46:03 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/19/2016 1:17 PM, mapou001@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 11:12:05 AM UTC-7, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> [more crap] >>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fuck you. Don't bother replying. I don't read your stupid shit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But others do. And we're right about you.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't fucking care. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha... >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course you don't. That's why you're never going to get anywhere >>>>>> different than where you are right now -- pissed and without answers to >>>>>> your questions. Start caring a little more, and maybe that would change. >>>>> >>>>> I got answers, alright. This is how I know you're a fucking mental midget and an ass kisser. >>>>> And I do care about good solid physics, not a bunch of stupid crap from morons. >>>> >>>> I'm not sure how you would know "good solid physics" if it hit you in >>>> the face. You keep mentioning some Newtonian equivalence principle >>>> between acceleration and gravity, which you made up. Is making stuff up >>>> and slapping a label of "Newtonian" on it what you mean by "good solid >>>> physics"? >>> >>> You're an idiot. Newtonian gravity assumes that the acceleration of gravity works equally for any >>> object regardless of mass. >> >> Of MASS, yes. >> >>> If you can't figure out that this is a principle of equivalence, you are a fucking moron. >> >> Well, it's apparent that YOU have called it "a principle of >> equivalence", where equivalence could be between anything maybe, >> couldn't it? Except not between gravity and acceleration. >> >>> But I already knew that. >>> >>>> In my readings (of books written by physicists), good solid physics >>>> usually involves some skills in math. Yet, you don't seem to think so. >>>> I'm pretty sure this has been true since the 1600s, but somehow you >>>> don't think so. Care to explain what you mean exactly by "good solid >>>> physics" and do you think any physicist in particular would agree with you? >>> >>> Moron. Math does not explain anything. Math is a descriptive language, not an explanatory >> >> Bullshit. >> >>> language. For example, the inverse square law does not explain why there is an inverse square >> >> Of course not. But neither do the words in that case. But in other >> cases, there IS an explanation in the math. In other words, where there >> IS an explanation, you're just as likely to find it in the math as you >> are in the words, because as I told you in the very front of this whole >> thread, math is a shorthand for words and is used to express things more >> economically and often more rigorously correct than words. That is, IF >> you understand the language of mathematics. The fact that you don't >> understand the math at all doesn't mean that others don't, and the fact >> that you don't understand it does NOT mean that you are entitled to an >> answer in the language you happen to understand. What it DOES mean is >> that if you want the answer, you learn the language. Which is why math >> is taught in school. >> >> Lesson is simple. Don't want to learn Spanish? Stay the fuck away from >> Nicaragua. Don't want to learn math? Stay the fuck away from physics. >> And don't bitch about it. >> >>> law. Get a fucking clue. >>> >>> ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha... >>> >>> PS. Fuck you. >>> > Eat shit, you dumb fuck. > > ahahaha...AHAHAHAHA...ahahahaha... > And so the conversation goes. Just to recap: You have some idea of what physics SHOULD BE, according to you. Not what it actually is, or in fact ever was, mind you. Just some idea that you have come up with. And according to that idea, you have some pithy comments about "mechanisms", about the worthlessness of math, about peer review and how physicists work together, and about some fabricated history of the development of physics. This collection of half-assed ideas, NONE of which comes from reading much of anything from real physicists, is what you call "good solid physics". And when it turns out that your "vision" for good solid physics doesn't actually line up with facts, then you use "fuck you" as a punctuation mark. If there is a disconnect between you and the rest of the world, then it's probably just worth noting on a Post-It Note on your desk that the problem is then you. -- Odd Bodkin --- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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Gravity and light question mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-14 23:01 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 07:25 -0500
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Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 14:12 -0500
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Re: Gravity and light question Kent Evans <kenev@bluebarryinfo.org> - 2016-07-22 18:27 +0000
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Re: Gravity and light question edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 13:11 -0700
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light is waves through the electronic matters of free space noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 19:16 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 15:22 -0500
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Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:53 -0500
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Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 09:39 -0500
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Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 10:54 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:56 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 17:12 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 17:10 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 16:51 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 07:24 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-07-26 19:18 +0000
Re: Gravity and light question mapou001@gmail.com - 2016-07-24 15:04 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Lofty Goat <rlwatkins@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 18:50 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:05 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-25 11:16 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question edprochak@gmail.com - 2016-07-26 11:00 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 11:52 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:29 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 14:01 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-31 18:45 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question jay moseley <jaymoseley@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-01 08:45 -0700
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-01 15:12 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-26 21:36 +0200
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:05 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-27 18:36 +0200
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 13:08 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-28 00:15 +0200
Re: Gravity and light question Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 09:24 -0500
Re: Gravity and light question Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-29 07:05 +0200
i.q at most zero noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 14:19 -0700
Light (was: i.q at most zero) Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2016-07-29 07:16 +0200
Re: Light (was: i.q at most zero) LIGO Fraud Investigator <mapou001@gmail.com> - 2016-07-28 22:34 -0700
see _Light, a history: Fermat's complete correspondence on light_ noTthaTguY <abu.kuanysh05@gmail.com> - 2016-07-29 09:38 -0700
Re: see _Light, a history: Fermat's complete correspondence on light_ brandonahenley9@gmail.com - 2016-07-29 12:38 -0700
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