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| From | Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics |
| Subject | Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! |
| Date | 2018-11-12 18:40 +0000 |
| Organization | Aioe.org NNTP Server |
| Message-ID | <pschen$1pmg$2@gioia.aioe.org> (permalink) |
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<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: > On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:56:28 PM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 2:53:04 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:44:49 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 10:51:07 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 7:33:18 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:46:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 9:37:40 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> There is no curvature and no 'schmervature ' of space !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> and has no physical/Dimensions / properties >>>>>>>>>>>>> except length dimension -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> --that by itself cannot be detected >>>>>>>>>>>>> if no mass in it !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> for me >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mass is the main ''hero ' of all physics >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was dwelling on it here along many years ! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> that does not to say that >>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM not A GREAT ADMIRER OF EINSTEIN !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> FOR >>>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>>> E=mc^2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for his photoelectric findings >>>>>>>>>>>>> and his SR!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> that is as well right !!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ==================================> >> but >>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was only a human being >>>>>>>>>>>>> not an Angle from heaven >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Hominum -errata est'' (spell ??in Roman >>>>>>>>>>>>> ====== >>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>> if!! he was wrong about 'curved space' >>>>>>>>>>>>> just imagine!! the damage it was causing >>>>>>>>>>>>> along more than 100 years !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> by preventing / ''screening'' some >>>>>>>>>>>>> other real >>>>>>>>>>>>> needed advance !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ONE EVER USED IT FOR ANYTHING >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> not to speak about PRACTICAL USES >>>>>>>>>>>>> even NASSA by its interstellar projects >>>>>>>>>>>>> (to send a human being to Mars!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> does no use it!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> except >>>>>>>>>>>>> the ordinary Newtonian physics !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>> what on earth another ** responsible project** we have >>>>>>>>>>>>> other than sending a human being to mars ??? >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>> my alternative claim is that >>>>>>>>>>>>> even fantastical it looks in our days >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================> >> Mass** IS THE >>>>>>>>>>>>> CREAEOR OF **ALL**!! FORCES ---INCLUDING GRAVITY !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========================================> >> the Faraday ingenious >>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment with the permanent magnet 100yesre ago !!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> was the first TABGIBLE clue to it !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> unprecedented !! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================> >> TIA (humbly ) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eng >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yehiel Porat >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/11/2018 >>>>>>>>>>>>> =====================> > now >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> odd Bodkin (anonymous)!! >>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to cheat us >>>>>>>>>>>> by saying that: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> GPS is using 'curved space' physics >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> so what do you think about it ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> TIA >>>>>>>>>>>> Y.Porat >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> ===================> > >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I somehow knew you were incapable of doing a simple Google search, and that >>>>>>>>>>> your ONLY recourse is to ask people here for help. Doesn t this embarrass >>>>>>>>>>> you a little? >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin Maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ========================thank you Bodkin >>>>>>>>>> indeed you are better than me in searching >>>>>>>>>> the net >>>>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>> please note >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the GPS system is based on a **thick net**of satellites >>>>>>>>>> SURROUND ALL OUR GLOBE !! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if space is curved >>>>>>>>>> why do we need ALL THAT THICK NET OF SATTELITES !! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Can you at least go to www.wikipedia.org and read the article on GPS? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> IF SPACE WAS CURVEED THE EM WAVES >>>>>>>>>> WOULD FOOW THE SATTELITES >>>>>>>>>> EVEN IF NOT 'SISED BY SIDE !! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No. You have the mistaken impression that any object at that elevation at >>>>>>>>> any speed would follow the same orbits as the satellites. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have a FUNDAMENTALLY poor understanding of what curved space means. It >>>>>>>>> doesn t mean that objects at that height all follow the curved track of >>>>>>>>> curved spacetime. THAT S NOT WHAT IT MEANS! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but run around ''curved space' that is; actualy >>>>>>>>>> not space but just our globe that is curved !~~ globe >>>>>>>>>> that is curved !!!with no need of all that side by side net >>>>>>>>>> probably >>>>>>>>>> with relative short distance straight lines !! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pay attention. The curvature of the surface of the earth has NOTHING to do >>>>>>>>> with the curvature of spacetime at the earth s surface. The radius of >>>>>>>>> curvature of spacetime near the earth s surface is 31 million billion feet. >>>>>>>>> The radius of curvature of the earth s surface is 21 million feet. Do those >>>>>>>>> look like the same numbers to you!?! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> em waves do not move in curved lines ?!! >>>>>>>>>> they move in straight lines >>>>>>>>>> and therefore there is the need of >>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>> eye to eye system !! >>>>>>>>>> not because curved space !! >>>>>>>>>> but curved globe >>>>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>>>> I indicated that >>>>>>>>>> even according to my understanding >>>>>>>>>> SR is right !!! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> so SR calculations are needed !! >>>>>>>>>> and i understand it >>>>>>>>>> but not >>>>>>>>>> Gr calculations >>>>>>>>>> we have to find out >>>>>>>>>> if they use >>>>>>>>>> GR calculations >>>>>>>>>> or may be >>>>>>>>>> just SR calculations >>>>>>>>>> and it is their mistake to mix >>>>>>>>>> Sr >>>>>>>>>> with GR ?? >>>>>>>>>> we have to ask >>>>>>>>>> the real people >>>>>>>>>> who did it >>>>>>>>>> 'with their hands'' >>>>>>>>>> and not from ones that just'' heard' about it and were mixing >>>>>>>>>> Sr with GR!?? >>>>>>>>>> =================TIA >>>>>>>>>> Y.P >>>>>>>>>> ============== >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I told you parrot >>>>>>>> you and Einstein can plat with your >>>>>>>> curves space lines as much as you like and all night >>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>> the fact is that prcticslly >>>>>>>> GPs is using a thick net of >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> eye to eye (do you understand what is eye tO eye system >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> AMD WHY SO?? >>>>>>>> BECUSE IN THAT CASE >>>>>>>> A ***STRIGHT LINE PATH*** IS NEEDED !! >>>>>>>> GOT IT CURELESS PAERRROT ??? >>>>>>>> THAT IS PRACTICE FACTS ?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It s factually wrong. The system would NOT fail because of the curvature of >>>>>>> spacetime for several reasons. >>>>>>> 1. It does NOT require straight line of sight the way you think it does. >>>>>> >>>>>> ===============================who on earth - tells you that curvature of >>>>>> space got to do anything with >>>>>> curved space OR CUVED SPACE >>>>>> >>>>>> EM WAVES that move is perfect straight lines ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO DO THE 'JOB!!!! >>>>> >>>>> Again, practicality and good enough have nothing to do with validity of >>>>> science. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==> > >>>>>>> 2. The line of sight >>>>>> --- >>>>>> I said 'line of site' >>>>>> >>>>>> only to indicate that >>>>>> that is the reason why a long chain of transmission stations is needed >>>>>> to keep contact !!! >>>>>> and as anyone know >>>>>> em waves move in SRAIGHT LINES !!! >>>>> >>>>> But they DONT. That s the point. >>>>> >>>>>> THEY ARE RACTICALLY NOT INFLUEBCED BY GRAVITY >>>>>> AND THE LITTLE CURVED MOTION >>>>>> (if IS ) >>>>>> LISTEN CAREFLLY >>>>>> >>>>>> EM VAVES HAVE MASS >>>>>> indeed a very small tiny mass >>>>>> >>>>>> AND EART HAS AS EVEN YOU KNOW >>>>>> HAS A BIG MASS >>>>>> SO] >>>>>> IT IS ITERACTION BETWEEN >>>>>> MASS OF EARTH AND MASS OF EM WAVES !! >>>>>> indeed a very small interaction >>>>>> >>>>>> not because of f en curved space !! >>>>>> as well as >>>>>> Edington at his time >>>>>> could not know that >>>>>> EM waves HAS MASS!! the only mass !! >>>>>> not relativistic mass >>>>>> and not schmelativistic mass !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------------------------------- >>>>>> >>>>>> is relevant between ground and satellite is >>>>>>> mostly radial and not tangential, and the bend in the radial direction is >>>>>>> negligible. >>>>>> ==================negligible because the **tiny mass** of em waves >>>>>> NOT F EN CURVED SPACE !!! >>>>>> ============== >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3. The bend is so small that it doesn t matter. Remember the radius of >>>>>>> curvature of spacetime in the region of the satellites is 31 million >>>>>>> billion feet. >>>>>> ================you can ''fiddle'' with your f en 'curved line of space >>>>>> as much as you like >>>>>> >>>>>> (3 billion 10 billon 1000 billion >>>>>> any figure you will say >>>>> >>>>> Quantities are critical in science. Physics is a quantitative science. >>>>> >>>>>> playing chess with yourself and other useless crocs >>>>>> >>>>>> =GPS >>>>>> -does not use f en curved space >>>>> >>>>> Yes it does. It s in the documented design. >>>>> >>>>>> NASSA as well does not use it >>>>>> no one will ever use it >>>>>> >>>>>> only idiots use it >>>>>> in their imagination >>>>>> -- >>>>>> but the bad point of it >>>>>> preventing >>>>>> real advance !!!! >>>>>> and wasting >>>>>> precious human resources !!! >>>>>> >>>>>> ============== >>>>>>>> NOT nice dream at might !!!! >>>>>> >>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables >>>>>> ----------------- >>>>>> indeed the only right thing about yourself >>>>>> not your fault >>>>>> you was born --A PARROT >>>>>> =================the real nice at night dream >>>>>> is you and your damaging incurable clan >>>>>> of f en curved space >>>>>> that BTW has the dimension of **length** only &&!!! >>>>>> =================TIA >>>>>> Y.P >>>>>> ============> >>>> ============================DEAR Boddy >>>> please tell us about a physical entity >>>> >>>> THAT DOES NOT HAVE MASS (beside your f en curved space )&&..!! >>> >>> Sure. A magnetic field 100 million miles from the nearest mass. >>> >> ================== >> (:-) ??? >> just tell us >> where did you find >> such a creature >> and how do you know it is 100 million miles from mass?? >> 2 >> a magnetic field does not have mass ?? >> what is it composed of ?? >> 3 >> an em wave does not have mass ?!! >> ==== >> TIA >> Y.P >> > ===================== > what are the dimensions of a magnetic field ??! > > ===================== > TIA > Y.P > ============= >> >> = > > It may interest you that the fundamental unit of kilograms is now defined in terms of Planck’s constant. Dimensions do not tell you what a quantity is made of. They never have. I don’t have any idea where you got the idea they do. -- Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
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