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Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !!

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !!
Date 2018-11-13 12:35 +0000
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<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, November 13, 2018 at 3:07:35 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 10:04:40 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:40:30 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:56:28 PM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 2:53:04 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:44:49 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 10:51:07 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 7:33:18 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:46:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 9:37:40 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There  is no curvature and no 'schmervature ' of space !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and has no physical/Dimensions / properties
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except length  dimension --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --that by itself cannot be detected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if no mass  in it !!! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mass  is the main  ''hero ' of all  physics 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was dwelling on it here along  many years !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that does not to say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM  not A GREAT   ADMIRER OF EINSTEIN !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E=mc^2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for his photoelectric findings 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   his   SR!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  is as well right !!!! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==================================> >> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was only a human  being 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an Angle from  heaven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Hominum -errata est''  (spell ??in  Roman 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ====== 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if!! he was wrong about 'curved space' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just imagine!! the damage it was causing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along more than 100  years     !! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by preventing  / ''screening''   some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other  real 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed advance   !! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ONE EVER USED IT FOR ANYTHING 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not to speak about  PRACTICAL USES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even  NASSA by its interstellar  projects 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (to send a human  being to  Mars!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does no use it!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   ordinary  Newtonian physics !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what on  earth   another ** responsible project** we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than  sending a human  being to mars ??? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my  alternative  claim is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fantastical it looks in our days 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================> >> Mass**  IS THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CREAEOR OF **ALL**!! FORCES ---INCLUDING GRAVITY !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========================================> >> the Faraday  ingenious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment with the permanent magnet 100yesre ago !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was the first  TABGIBLE  clue to  it !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unprecedented  !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================> >> TIA (humbly )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yehiel Porat 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/11/2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =====================> > now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odd Bodkin  (anonymous)!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to  cheat us  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by saying that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS  is using 'curved space' physics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so what do you think about it ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I somehow knew you were incapable of doing a simple Google search, and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your ONLY recourse is to ask people here for help. Doesn t this embarrass
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you a little?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ========================thank you Bodkin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed you are better than me in searching 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the net 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please note 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the GPS system  is based on a **thick net**of satellites
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SURROUND ALL  OUR GLOBE !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if space is curved 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why do we need ALL THAT THICK NET OF SATTELITES !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you at least go to www.wikipedia.org and read the article on GPS? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IF SPACE WAS CURVEED   THE EM WAVES 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WOULD FOOW THE SATTELITES 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EVEN IF NOT 'SISED BY SIDE !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. You have the mistaken impression that any object at that elevation at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any speed would follow the same orbits as the satellites. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You have a FUNDAMENTALLY poor understanding of what curved space means. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn t mean that objects at that height all follow the curved track of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curved spacetime. THAT S NOT WHAT IT MEANS!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but run around ''curved space' that is; actualy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not space but just our globe that is curved !~~ globe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that is curved !!!with no need of all  that side by side net 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with relative short distance straight lines !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pay attention. The curvature of the surface of the earth has NOTHING to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the curvature of spacetime at the earth s surface. The radius of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curvature of spacetime near the earth s surface is 31 million billion feet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The radius of curvature of the earth s surface is 21 million feet. Do those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look like the same numbers to you!?!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em waves do not  move  in curved lines ?!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they move  in straight lines 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and therefore there  is the need of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eye to eye    system !!  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not because curved space !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but curved  globe 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I indicated that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even  according to my understanding
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SR  is right !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so  SR   calculations   are needed !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   i understand  it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gr calculations 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have to find  out 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if they use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GR calculations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or may be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just SR calculations 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  it is their mistake to mix 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with GR ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we have to ask 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the  real people 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who did  it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'with  their hands'' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and  not from  ones that just'' heard' about it and were mixing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr with     GR!??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =================TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============== 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I told you   parrot 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you  and   Einstein  can plat with  your 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> curves space lines as much as you like    and  all night
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fact is that prcticslly 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPs is using  a thick net of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eye to eye  (do you understand what is eye tO  eye system 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AMD WHY  SO??
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BECUSE IN THAT CASE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A ***STRIGHT LINE PATH***  IS  NEEDED !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GOT IT CURELESS PAERRROT ???
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> THAT IS PRACTICE FACTS ??
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It s factually wrong. The system would NOT fail because of the curvature of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> spacetime for several reasons. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. It does NOT require straight line of sight the way you think it does.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ===============================who on earth - tells you that curvature of
>>>>>>>>>>>> space got to do  anything with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> curved space OR CUVED SPACE 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> EM WAVES that move is perfect straight lines    ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO DO   THE
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'JOB!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Again, practicality and  good enough  have nothing to do with validity of
>>>>>>>>>>> science. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. The line of sight 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>> I   said  'line of site'
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> only to indicate  that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is the reason why  a long chain of transmission   stations is needed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to   keep contact !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> and as anyone  know 
>>>>>>>>>>>> em waves move in SRAIGHT LINES !!!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> But they DONT. That s the point. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> THEY ARE  RACTICALLY    NOT INFLUEBCED BY  GRAVITY
>>>>>>>>>>>> AND THE LITTLE  CURVED MOTION 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (if   IS )
>>>>>>>>>>>> LISTEN CAREFLLY
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> EM VAVES  HAVE MASS 
>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed a very small tiny mass  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> AND EART HAS AS EVEN YOU KNOW
>>>>>>>>>>>> HAS A BIG MASS 
>>>>>>>>>>>> SO]
>>>>>>>>>>>> IT IS ITERACTION   BETWEEN 
>>>>>>>>>>>> MASS  OF EARTH   AND MASS   OF EM WAVES !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed a very small   interaction 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not because of  f en curved space !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Edington at his time
>>>>>>>>>>>> could not know that
>>>>>>>>>>>> EM waves  HAS MASS!! the only mass !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> not relativistic mass
>>>>>>>>>>>> and not schmelativistic mass  !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> is relevant between ground and satellite is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly radial and not tangential, and the bend in the radial direction is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> negligible.
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==================negligible   because the **tiny mass** of em waves 
>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT F EN CURVED SPACE !!!  
>>>>>>>>>>>> ==============  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. The bend is so small that it doesn t matter. Remember the radius of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> curvature of spacetime in the region of the satellites is 31 million
>>>>>>>>>>>>> billion feet. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ================you can ''fiddle'' with your f en  'curved line of space
>>>>>>>>>>>> as much as you like 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (3 billion  10 billon   1000 billion  
>>>>>>>>>>>> any figure you will  say 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Quantities are critical in science. Physics is a quantitative science. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> playing chess with yourself and other  useless  crocs  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> =GPS 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -does not use f en curved space 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it does. It s in the documented design. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> NASSA    as well does not use it
>>>>>>>>>>>> no one will ever use it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> only idiots use it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in their imagination 
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> but   the bad point of it
>>>>>>>>>>>> preventing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> real   advance !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> and wasting
>>>>>>>>>>>> precious human resources !!! 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ============== 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NOT nice dream at   might !!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed the only right thing about yourself  
>>>>>>>>>>>> not your fault
>>>>>>>>>>>> you was born --A PARROT  
>>>>>>>>>>>> =================the real nice at   night dream    
>>>>>>>>>>>> is you and your  damaging  incurable    clan
>>>>>>>>>>>> of  f en curved space 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that  BTW has the dimension of **length** only &&!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> =================TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>>>>>> ============> 
>>>>>>>>>> ============================DEAR  Boddy
>>>>>>>>>> please tell us about a physical   entity
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> THAT DOES NOT HAVE MASS  (beside your f en curved space )&&..!!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sure. A magnetic field 100 million miles from the nearest mass. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ==================
>>>>>>>> (:-) ???
>>>>>>>> just  tell  us
>>>>>>>> where did   you find
>>>>>>>> such a creature 
>>>>>>>> and how do you know it is 100 million miles from mass??
>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>> a  magnetic field  does  not have  mass ?? 
>>>>>>>> what is it composed   of ??
>>>>>>>> 3
>>>>>>>> an em   wave does not have mass ?!!
>>>>>>>> ====
>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>>> what are the dimensions of a magnetic   field   ??!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =====================
>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>> =============
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It may interest you that the fundamental unit of kilograms is now defined
>>>>>> in terms of Planck’s constant. 
>>>>> =====================
>>>>> 
>>>>> so ??!!
>>>>> E photon =  h f 
>>>>> energy has mass !!
>>>> 
>>>> No, it does not. 
>>> ================================================================================
>>>> 
>>>> I know you’re looking at dimensions again. Bad thing to do. The dimensions
>>>> of energy also include meters-squared, which are the dimensions of area.
>>>> Where is the area in energy, Porat??
>>>> 
>>>> ==============================================
>>> 
>>> which formula of energy
>>> include  L^2
>>> please remind me ?
>> 
>> I don’t know why you bother any more. 
>> Your memory is gone. 
>> You can’t do simple arithmetic anymore. 
>> You can’t spell. 
>> And you couldn’t look something up on the internet to save your life. 
>> Whatever talents you once had have faded and are long gone. Time to retire
>> for good. 
>> 
>> SI units for energy are kg*m^2/s^2. 
> ==============================================
> (:-)
> 
> what is that  Kg
> doing there ?!!!

What is that area doing there?!!

You say kg in those dimensions means that there is mass in energy!
So you must also be saying there is area in energy too!

The rule of logic you claim to follow must be followed consistently or it
is no rule at all!

Where is your logic that you invoke it and then ignore it?

Where is the area in energy?

> IS THAT FORMULA VALID 
> WITHOUT IT ?
> let us take it 
> one by   one !!!
> 2
> 
> the fact some dimension is in  some formula  in ^2
> 
> does no mean it  cannot be in an0ther formula without ^2
> now about my  age
> I don't know about  others 
> I know about myself 
> it is a advantage  
> now piggy book seller and potential thief  as a book publisaher
> 
> did you ever and can a young  fu er   like you 
> places that I come from
> a f er like you  ** never was there !**
> YOU ARE NOT EDUCATED AND TRAINED AS I AM !!

Bullshit. You can’t work a simple freshman physics problem. I can. Want to
take a small bet on that?

> see a little'** example:
> 
> http://sites.google.com/site/theyporatmodel/an-abstrct
> 
> can a pig shit crock 
> do anything like that
> or even **START  UNDERSTANDING*   IT ??!!
> 
> With you  parrot education you got ???
> does a f en idiot crock  like you    know
> 
> THAT THERE IS NO PHYSICAL ENTITY 
> THAT IS NOT 3D??
> AND A CROCK LIKE YOU WANT TO TEACCH US PHYSICS  here  ??
> and to go on boggling the balls of anyone   here 
> to tell my  to go away 
> why??
> because I disturb you to  sell your f en  books 
> with the  f en ''curved space ''  
> that is  and was wasting
> billions of precious human resources   for so ling !!!
> instead investing it
> in the right location ??!!
> curved space 
> IS NOT USED BY  NASSA
> NOT USED BY G P  S
> JUST NOTHING !!!!
> except income for shameless crocks like you !!!
> ===
> keep well 
> with your ''curved space'' and other bullshit  physics 
> 
> but please remember*(and you can t otherwise )   my  new  historic copyright
> of an 
> old man ... 
> =========================================================
> MASS** IS THE CREATOR OF ALL** FORCES -INCLUDING GRAVITY !!
> 
> =========================================================
> even if you cant   understand it-- even  if I push it to your thought     
> 
> Y.P
> ======================  
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>> 
>> Now I know you’d like to pounce on that kg. But first, tell me about the
>> m^2 and where area is in energy. 
>> 
>>> 
>>> ===========================
>>> 
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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