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Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !!

From Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com>
Newsgroups sci.physics
Subject Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !!
Date 2018-11-12 20:04 +0000
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<yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 8:40:30 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:56:28 PM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 2:53:04 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 5:44:49 AM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, November 11, 2018 at 10:51:07 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 7:33:18 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 5:46:08 PM UTC+2, Odd Bodkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <yporat08@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, November 2, 2018 at 9:37:40 AM UTC+2, ypor...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There  is no curvature and no 'schmervature ' of space !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> space is nothing!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and has no physical/Dimensions / properties
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except length  dimension --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --that by itself cannot be detected 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if no mass  in it !!! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for me 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mass  is the main  ''hero ' of all  physics 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was dwelling on it here along  many years !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that does not to say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I AM  not A GREAT   ADMIRER OF EINSTEIN !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FOR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> his 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E=mc^2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for his photoelectric findings 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and   his   SR!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that  is as well right !!!! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==================================> >> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Einstein was only a human  being 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an Angle from  heaven
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Hominum -errata est''  (spell ??in  Roman 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ====== 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if!! he was wrong about 'curved space' 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just imagine!! the damage it was causing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along more than 100  years     !! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by preventing  / ''screening''   some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other  real 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed advance   !! 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NO ONE EVER USED IT FOR ANYTHING 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not to speak about  PRACTICAL USES
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even  NASSA by its interstellar  projects 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (to send a human  being to  Mars!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does no use it!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the   ordinary  Newtonian physics !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what on  earth   another ** responsible project** we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other than  sending a human  being to mars ??? 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my  alternative  claim is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even fantastical it looks in our days 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================================> >> Mass**  IS THE
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CREAEOR OF **ALL**!! FORCES ---INCLUDING GRAVITY !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ==========================================> >> the Faraday  ingenious 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment with the permanent magnet 100yesre ago !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was the first  TABGIBLE  clue to  it !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unprecedented  !!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================================> >> TIA (humbly )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eng
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yehiel Porat 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2/11/2018
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =====================> > now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odd Bodkin  (anonymous)!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted to  cheat us  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by saying that:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS  is using 'curved space' physics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so what do you think about it ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Y.Porat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ===================> > 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I somehow knew you were incapable of doing a simple Google search, and that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> your ONLY recourse is to ask people here for help. Doesn t this embarrass
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you a little?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin   Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ========================thank you Bodkin
>>>>>>>>>>>> indeed you are better than me in searching 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the net 
>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>> please note 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the GPS system  is based on a **thick net**of satellites
>>>>>>>>>>>> SURROUND ALL  OUR GLOBE !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if space is curved 
>>>>>>>>>>>> why do we need ALL THAT THICK NET OF SATTELITES !!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you at least go to www.wikipedia.org and read the article on GPS? 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> IF SPACE WAS CURVEED   THE EM WAVES 
>>>>>>>>>>>> WOULD FOOW THE SATTELITES 
>>>>>>>>>>>> EVEN IF NOT 'SISED BY SIDE !!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> No. You have the mistaken impression that any object at that elevation at
>>>>>>>>>>> any speed would follow the same orbits as the satellites. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You have a FUNDAMENTALLY poor understanding of what curved space means. It
>>>>>>>>>>> doesn t mean that objects at that height all follow the curved track of
>>>>>>>>>>> curved spacetime. THAT S NOT WHAT IT MEANS!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but run around ''curved space' that is; actualy
>>>>>>>>>>>> not space but just our globe that is curved !~~ globe 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that is curved !!!with no need of all  that side by side net 
>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>> with relative short distance straight lines !!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Pay attention. The curvature of the surface of the earth has NOTHING to do
>>>>>>>>>>> with the curvature of spacetime at the earth s surface. The radius of
>>>>>>>>>>> curvature of spacetime near the earth s surface is 31 million billion feet.
>>>>>>>>>>> The radius of curvature of the earth s surface is 21 million feet. Do those
>>>>>>>>>>> look like the same numbers to you!?!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> em waves do not  move  in curved lines ?!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> they move  in straight lines 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and therefore there  is the need of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> an 
>>>>>>>>>>>> eye to eye    system !!  
>>>>>>>>>>>> not because curved space !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> but curved  globe 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> I indicated that
>>>>>>>>>>>> even  according to my understanding
>>>>>>>>>>>> SR  is right !!!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> so  SR   calculations   are needed !!
>>>>>>>>>>>> and   i understand  it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> but not 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gr calculations 
>>>>>>>>>>>> we have to find  out 
>>>>>>>>>>>> if they use
>>>>>>>>>>>> GR calculations
>>>>>>>>>>>> or may be
>>>>>>>>>>>> just SR calculations 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and  it is their mistake to mix 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr 
>>>>>>>>>>>> with GR ??
>>>>>>>>>>>> we have to ask 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the  real people 
>>>>>>>>>>>> who did  it 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'with  their hands'' 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and  not from  ones that just'' heard' about it and were mixing
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sr with     GR!??
>>>>>>>>>>>> =================TIA
>>>>>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>>>>>> ============== 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I told you   parrot 
>>>>>>>>>> you  and   Einstein  can plat with  your 
>>>>>>>>>> curves space lines as much as you like    and  all night
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> the fact is that prcticslly 
>>>>>>>>>> GPs is using  a thick net of
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> eye to eye  (do you understand what is eye tO  eye system 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> AMD WHY  SO??
>>>>>>>>>> BECUSE IN THAT CASE 
>>>>>>>>>> A ***STRIGHT LINE PATH***  IS  NEEDED !!
>>>>>>>>>> GOT IT CURELESS PAERRROT ???
>>>>>>>>>> THAT IS PRACTICE FACTS ??
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It s factually wrong. The system would NOT fail because of the curvature of
>>>>>>>>> spacetime for several reasons. 
>>>>>>>>> 1. It does NOT require straight line of sight the way you think it does.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ===============================who on earth - tells you that curvature of
>>>>>>>> space got to do  anything with 
>>>>>>>> curved space OR CUVED SPACE 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> EM WAVES that move is perfect straight lines    ARE GOOD ENOUGH TO DO   THE 'JOB!!!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Again, practicality and  good enough  have nothing to do with validity of
>>>>>>> science. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ==> > 
>>>>>>>>> 2. The line of sight 
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> I   said  'line of site'
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> only to indicate  that 
>>>>>>>> that is the reason why  a long chain of transmission   stations is needed
>>>>>>>> to   keep contact !!!
>>>>>>>> and as anyone  know 
>>>>>>>> em waves move in SRAIGHT LINES !!!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But they DONT. That s the point. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> THEY ARE  RACTICALLY    NOT INFLUEBCED BY  GRAVITY
>>>>>>>> AND THE LITTLE  CURVED MOTION 
>>>>>>>> (if   IS )
>>>>>>>> LISTEN CAREFLLY
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> EM VAVES  HAVE MASS 
>>>>>>>> indeed a very small tiny mass  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AND EART HAS AS EVEN YOU KNOW
>>>>>>>> HAS A BIG MASS 
>>>>>>>> SO]
>>>>>>>> IT IS ITERACTION   BETWEEN 
>>>>>>>> MASS  OF EARTH   AND MASS   OF EM WAVES !!
>>>>>>>> indeed a very small   interaction 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> not because of  f en curved space !!
>>>>>>>> as well as 
>>>>>>>> Edington at his time
>>>>>>>> could not know that
>>>>>>>> EM waves  HAS MASS!! the only mass !!
>>>>>>>> not relativistic mass
>>>>>>>> and not schmelativistic mass  !!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> is relevant between ground and satellite is
>>>>>>>>> mostly radial and not tangential, and the bend in the radial direction is
>>>>>>>>> negligible.
>>>>>>>> ==================negligible   because the **tiny mass** of em waves 
>>>>>>>> NOT F EN CURVED SPACE !!!  
>>>>>>>> ==============  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3. The bend is so small that it doesn t matter. Remember the radius of
>>>>>>>>> curvature of spacetime in the region of the satellites is 31 million
>>>>>>>>> billion feet. 
>>>>>>>> ================you can ''fiddle'' with your f en  'curved line of space
>>>>>>>> as much as you like 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (3 billion  10 billon   1000 billion  
>>>>>>>> any figure you will  say 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Quantities are critical in science. Physics is a quantitative science. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> playing chess with yourself and other  useless  crocs  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> =GPS 
>>>>>>>> -does not use f en curved space 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes it does. It s in the documented design. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NASSA    as well does not use it
>>>>>>>> no one will ever use it 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> only idiots use it 
>>>>>>>> in their imagination 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> but   the bad point of it
>>>>>>>> preventing 
>>>>>>>> real   advance !!!!
>>>>>>>> and wasting
>>>>>>>> precious human resources !!! 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ============== 
>>>>>>>>>> NOT nice dream at   might !!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables
>>>>>>>> -----------------
>>>>>>>> indeed the only right thing about yourself  
>>>>>>>> not your fault
>>>>>>>> you was born --A PARROT  
>>>>>>>> =================the real nice at   night dream    
>>>>>>>> is you and your  damaging  incurable    clan
>>>>>>>> of  f en curved space 
>>>>>>>> that  BTW has the dimension of **length** only &&!!!
>>>>>>>> =================TIA
>>>>>>>> Y.P
>>>>>>>> ============> 
>>>>>> ============================DEAR  Boddy
>>>>>> please tell us about a physical   entity
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> THAT DOES NOT HAVE MASS  (beside your f en curved space )&&..!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure. A magnetic field 100 million miles from the nearest mass. 
>>>>> 
>>>> ==================
>>>> (:-) ???
>>>> just  tell  us
>>>> where did   you find
>>>> such a creature 
>>>> and how do you know it is 100 million miles from mass??
>>>> 2
>>>> a  magnetic field  does  not have  mass ?? 
>>>> what is it composed   of ??
>>>> 3
>>>> an em   wave does not have mass ?!!
>>>> ====
>>>> TIA
>>>> Y.P
>>>> 
>>> =====================
>>> what are the dimensions of a magnetic   field   ??!
>>> 
>>> =====================
>>> TIA
>>> Y.P
>>> =============
>>>> 
>>>> =
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> It may interest you that the fundamental unit of kilograms is now defined
>> in terms of Planck’s constant. 
> =====================
> 
> so ??!!
> E photon =  h f 
> energy has mass !!

No, it does not. 

I know you’re looking at dimensions again. Bad thing to do. The dimensions
of energy also include meters-squared, which are the dimensions of area.
Where is the area in energy, Porat??

> =================================================================
> NO MASS - THE  ONLY MASS = NO REAL; PHYSICS !
> ==================================================
> REMEBER WHO DEFINED/COINED   IT THE FIRST   ONE !!
> SO
> YOUR MAGNETIC  FEILD 
> HAS   MASS  !!
>> 
>> Dimensions do not tell you what a quantity is made of.
> ====================
> QHANTITY ??
> 
> who was talking about quantity of mass
> is in  magnetic field 
> al a claimed is that 
> 
> thre is no real** physics entity**that has no mass - the  only mass !
> 
> em waves has mass
> our globe has mass 
> that is why em or magnetic waves 
> are curving next  earth 
> 
> NOT F EN CURVES SPACE 
> but that curvature is not enough to curve all around our globe
> and that is why we need a long chain of transmission stations
> to  transmit   the G P S around earth 
> f en curved space has nothing todo with  G PS   system !
> so 
> anoher  thing(GPS) 
> 
> even GPS that don't need curved space 
> and  GPS  is another   thing that do not use curved spade !
> 2
> NASSA  AS WELL DOES NOT NEED IT
> 
> IF SO
> WHO THEHELL IS HUSING IT ??
> 
> AND  I WIILL  TELL  YOU ANOTHER SECRET
> (provided you will  not disclose  that secret to anyone …
> 
> NO AUCH   THING AS   F EN CURVED SPACE ATALL !!
> 
> 
> it is all  including all  forces  including gravity is  done  by ?....
> can you complete that NEW    historic    sentence/basic rule of physics  !!
> 
> discovered by …???
> I am too shy to  shy  and     modest To say it ..
> =============
> Y.P
> =================================
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   > > 
>> -- 
>> Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables
> -----------------------------------------------------
> toys    indeed!!
> ==========================
> 



-- 
Odd Bodkin — Maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 00:37 -0700
  Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! yporat08@gmail.com - 2018-11-02 07:19 -0700
    Re: NO CURVATURE AND NO ' ' SCHMERVATURE ' OF SPACE !! Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-11-02 15:46 +0000
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